Your view on prostitution, please

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by Superman
And BTW, she calls herself a "Whore." No bones about that. But again, the really interesting part to me is this butterfly thing where she sees people who are needing to be kicked out of their circular thinking patterns and open up to a new paradigm. Taht's it. She is a paradigm-changer. When she is done with a student, things seem very different. This is her core activity. The whoring helps her support her muse mission.

As you might imagine, we had some amazing conversations. I wish they had been taped. Some was stream-of-consciousness stuff that sounded more like poetry than conversation, and most of it flew over my head. And yes, we talked about sex. That was, of course, also interesting.

And yeah Mike, it is illegal. And common.

We are all "whores" for one thing or another, its just that some admit it and others refuse to. Some for money, some for cars, some for power and some for what they think is love. Very few are pure...

The abilitiy to look at things from a "third person's perspective" helps in this area to flesh out new and different aspects of one's life. We all need a "jolt" at times to stop ourselves from going down the railroad track that is called life and take a look at a different way of doing things.

Mental intercourse is some of the most stimulating things that a person can do in life, but many do not realize it. The mind controls the body and if you control the mind you can make the body do anything you wish. Am not the controlling type but its an interesting fact. Conversations like Supe had (above) are among these and what they talked about will return to him for a long time. I spent some time with a muse years ago and still have a tape of some of our sessions. Yes, I still learn from it and its been over 20 years ago.

Less than a week to go to the Pelican meeting in Vegas. Am in Beirut now and it seems like a world away, but then in many ways it is...

Joe A

[svandamme]

Originally posted by Joeaksa

The abilitiy to look at things from a "third person perspective" helps in this area to flesh out new and different aspects of one's life.

acid is awesome in that respect, nothing like having a meaningfull conversation with some vague sjamanistic entity about the universe and beyond...

then woop die do , your return to the normal space time continuum, and realize, that you've been yapping butt nekkid with yourself in the bathroom mirror for 6 hours straight , and that flying thing you did in between was actually indoor redecorating

then the next time you see your neighbour , you wonder
"was i ranting out loud, or was a catatonic ???"
"how thick is that deviding wall?"

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by svandamme
acid is awesome in that respect, nothing like having a meaningfull conversation with some vague sjamanistic entity about the universe and beyond...

then woop die do , your return to the normal space time continuum, and realize, that you've been yapping butt nekkid with yourself in the bathroom mirror for 6 hours straight , and that flying thing you did in between was actually indoor redecorating

then the next time you see your neighbour , you wonder
"was i ranting out loud, or was a catatonic ???"
"how thick is that deviding wall?"

Sounds like someone has been there before??

Did windowpane once back in the early '70's and that was enough. Found other ways to explore life and my mind, however feeble it may be.

[svandamme]

i have the attention span of a chipmunk , meditation or chanting don't work for me ... just don't have the patience

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by svandamme
i have the attention span of a chipmunk , meditation or chanting don't work for me ... just don't have the patience

I have had copilots like that. This is one reason for my having grey hair at an early age!

I do not chant or meditate, its not needed. However the more we learn about ourselves, the more interesting life is...

[svandamme]

Originally posted by Joeaksa
I have had copilots like that. This is one reason for my having grey hair at an early age!

LOL

Originally posted by Joeaksa

However the more we learn about ourselves, the more interesting life is...

damn straight.

[livi]

My Pro thread still up´n about then. Enchanting.

[RoninLB]

Originally posted by livi

Could any of you Gentlemen be persuaded to let your wife go out and make money " the easy way" ?

I find this one of those anti-climax questions.. meaning the more they make the more they spend. Car payments double. Beauty salon expenses triple. Xmas presents to friends go from $50 to $200us.

"the easy way" may become "the easy way" to be put on the financial edge?

Adult parties, ahem ahem, are more efficient imo.

[RoninLB]

Originally posted by svandamme
i have the attention span of a chipmunk , meditation or chanting don't work for me ... just don't have the patience

In the early 1970s I worked out in the lower east side. The best schools were in the city and many senior students were hired as bouncers by the big name clubs. Needless to say the city schools were the toughest and somehow the most respected.

What I'm getting at is that students would eventually be so beat up that when ordered to sit on the floor facing the wall and not move they would fall into a trance all by themselves. Call it meditation, call it anything you want. I call it induced self discipline.

sometimes it's ok to keep an open mind.

[RoninLB]

Originally posted by svandamme

then the next time you see your neighbour , you wonder
"was i ranting out loud, or was a catatonic ???"
"how thick is that deviding wall?"

none of my business .. but never drop without an experienced friend you completely trust who is staying straight.

[M.D. Holloway]

Supe - maybe she can make you think in expanded terms but I would be willing to but the fact that she is hot and is a hooker makes her very interesting to talk to regardless of her insights. Now she may have some but so do other people unfortunitly they are not as interesting to listen to or look at while they talk.

I guess what I'm saying is would you consider this woman a muse if she was 68 years old, 400 pounds and had festering bed sores?

[svandamme]

Originally posted by RoninLB
none of my business .. but never drop without an experienced friend you completely trust who is staying straight.

well , i agree, but i don't reallly completely trust anyone
and this was an accident,
wanted some mild little trip, bit heavier then the mushrooms i regulary had, hadn't found acid in years, but i knew what i was going for, did lock all doors, hid the keys and hid all sharp objects.... then made sure the set and setting were smooth
but it turned out to be freak blotters where 1/6th of the paper turned out to be a psychedelic dose
caugt me by surprise , never went truly psychedelic before that
zapped me out in 20 minutes straight

this is your mind :

mind
min
mi
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in the end, no freak out...had happy thoughts to bend the weirdness in to safe weirdness, and the instinct behaviour not to get upset if someting didn't make sense...

[svandamme]

Originally posted by RoninLB
I find this one of those anti-climax questions.. meaning the more they make the more they spend. Car payments double. Beauty salon expenses triple. Xmas presents to friends go from $50 to $200us.

"the easy way" may become "the easy way" to be put on the financial edge?

Adult parties, ahem ahem, are more efficient imo.

in A'dam
they have been seeing more and more teenage schoolgirls , that just use poontang to barter with , a quick lay , for 50 euro's , so they can buy a cell phone, or some fashion things....

was in the news a month ago , about there was no trend, even girls from supposedly reasonably good famillies... lack of morals, etc etc

[livi]

Poontang. Think I know what it means, but where does that word come from. Vietnam ? What is poon and what is tang ?

[RoninLB]

Originally posted by svandamme

good story

If you ever hit Colorado maybe try doing fresh peyote at 10,000ft during the late summer/early fall meteor shower with the locals.