Bob Ney is most definitely in trouble. DeLay will walk scot free, 100%. Here's another one that gets very little coverage because he's a black Dem.

Court Subpoenas Aides of La. Congressman

The Associated Press
Thursday, March 30, 2006; 8:29 PM

WASHINGTON -- A U.S. District Court has issued grand jury subpoenas to six aides to Rep. William Jefferson, a Louisiana Democrat who has been implicated in a bribery case.

In statements read on the House floor Thursday, the aides notified House Speaker Dennis Hastert that they had been served with grand jury subpoenas for testimony issued by the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia.

The court, located in Alexandria, Va., is set to hand down a sentence to a former aide to Jefferson, Brett Pfeffer, who last January pleaded guilty to aiding and abetting bribery of a public official and conspiracy.

Pfeffer, 37, who faces up to 20 years in prison, said a congressman demanded bribes in exchange for his assistance in brokering two African telecommunications deals. Court documents make clear that Jefferson is the accused congressman without specifically naming him.

Jefferson, who has not been charged with a crime, has denied the allegation, saying he has never demanded or accepted anything to perform a service for which he was elected.

Jefferson represents parts of New Orleans that were hardest hit by Hurricane Katrina.

The six staff members _ a district manager, a legislative assistant and four congressional aides _ said in their statements that they had consulted with the Office of General Counsel and determined that compliance with the subpoena "is consistent with the precedents and privileges of the House."

Lies! Lies! Lies! Political corruption does not exist Louisiana :D

Lets not forget the communist spies working for Joseph Stalin, knowingly protected and elevated within the Democrat party...or more recently Sandy Bergler doing Clinton cleanup by making sure nobody would ever know the truth about what led to 9-11-01.

Top that.

You seem to be confused. It's not a contest to determine who is sleazier. Not everything boils down to partisan politics, although I understand that you would have no purpose in life if you could not attack democrats.

Delay is a sleazy Congressman that sold his office to the highest bidder. That's enough for me to kick he and his cronies out.

You seem extremely pleased with that pronouncement.

So the fact that DeLay's top three aids have accepted bribes does not bother you?

You think that's a positive thing for our country?

That is what politicians do...Ask Johnny Chung of the Clinton WhiteHouse, or ask Ron Brown...oh, I forgot, that bagman ended up dead.

What did Delay do that wasn't good for America?

For example: Clinton sold ICBM technology to the human rights abusing Chinese communist regime.

Yes I am pleased that DeLay will not be prosecuted for what FORMER employees of his did AFTER they stopped working for him. THEY will be prosecuted, not their FORMER boss.

And I am pleased that he will easily beat the "money laundering" charges, since he never even had the authority to "earmark" political contributions. DeLay does not cut checks on behalf of the RNC and he has no authority to tell them how to do so. If any of those checks were cut illegally, it's on the RNC and not DeLay.

There you go again Rick.....posting facts instead of innuendo designed to ruin a man's reputation. How positively Republican of you.

Today's Democrat tactics, party-wide, make Joseph McCarthy's tactics look like child's play.

This pursuit of Delay is a witchunt. The Democrat party attacking Delay for campaign finance violations is laughable, the height of chutzpah.

You really should check those "facts" you and fint and Nul suddenly seem so concerned with. I'll chalk it up to an honest mistake, but it does make you look a bit silly. Rudy accepted bribes wile working for Delay, and Abramoff gave bribes to elected officials (all Repubs so far) and their staffs WHILE they were in Congress or working for Congress.

So I ask you again, do you think the Majority Leader's top staff accepting bribes is a good thing for America?

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Clowny...As soon as the Clinton's are imprisoned for treason and campaign finance violations (not that the gravity of the alleged Delay crimes come close to that of the Clintons') I will jump on board with you.

So let's see if you answer the question ... Do we want a majority leader whose top aids accept bribes?

Or would that man's "reputation" be better served if he did not staff his office with crooks that abused the public trust?

Bonus quesiton for fint.

Am I a "traitor" for pointing out that Delay's office was sold to the highest bidder?

As for Nul, stick with the Bill Clinton bashing ... it shows exactly how irrelevant you are in 2006.

Just giving you a little much needed perspective.

Let me answer that question for fint: You are a traitor for conspiring in the propaganda war that is focused on undermining a President during wartime, maliciously working for the enemy in the process, and voting for the political party that stands against the Constitution and the Founding Fathers.

A politician that has folks that work for them who turn out to be dishonest is a problem.....but not unique

Hiring people to work for you because they are dishonest......is uniquely democrat

Delay was a great Majority leader...that is why you and your ilk are going after him.

Seems like a quite a bit of folk in one office here....yet this is just a "problem" to you, whereas some other party when it's the same scenario, it's because they are dishonest because they belong to that party?

1. that makes no logical sense. That would mean that a dishonest person would always join one party and an honest person would always join the other party.

2. How do you know that this one was "just a problem" and the scenario of the other party is "because he or she is dishonest because they belong to that party?" Based on what?

Is your condition on honesty, dishonestly merely based on party affiliation? Genuine question, do you really believe that?

Read it again CC.

Ok, so it looks like Rudy started this behavior before he left DeLay's office. Still, what does that have to do with DeLay? Has anyone even accused DeLay of being involved? And Rodeo, what do you say about Wm. Jefferson? Are you as passionately anti-corruption when it's a Dem who IS actively involved with his staff's corruption?

What does it have to do with Delay that his top three staffers are crooks that accepted bribes and sold influence? That's what you're asking me?

Are you serious? You want to know what that "has to do with" DeLay?

Isn't saying DeLay isn't involved similar to what Barney Frank said about his roommate running the homosexual whore service out of Frank's apartment?

We all know their likely guilty, but haven't proof yet. The court of public opinion ought to have some merit here.

You know what? It doesn't even matter if DeLay was involved! His top three aids were crooks, as well as his favorite lobbyist. The entire management structure of his office was corrupt!

Either he knew, and was as sleazy as the rest of them, or he didn't, and he does not deserve to hire any more staffers on the public payroll.

I vaguely remember that case, but don't recall if Frank claimed total ignorance of his roommate's activities. I would think it would be tough to plausibly make such a claim, since they lived together. That is a world away from DeLay's situation. He doesn't live with his staffers and can't possibly know everything they're doing at all hours. Plenty of Congressional staffers get in trouble for stuff their bosses never ever would have learned of, if it hadn't been uncovered by a newspaper. Remember Jessica Cutler? She was an intern for Mike DeWine and banging some higher ranking staffers in a few offices and then posting it on her blog? What did this have to do with DeWine? As soon as he found out, she was fired. Why would it go any farther than that?

Was Rodeo his roommate? Hmm, how deep does this rabbit-hole go?
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Well, Rick, it seems to me that most of us spend a lot more time at work or with colleagues than we do at home sleeping. Frank, who I do not believe was factual, would have a much greater area in which to state he knew nothing if the activities were during his many hours in congress.

Unless you're thinking is that most of these activities occured at night, then I'd say DeLay has less alibi than does Frank. Room exists for him to not be involved, certainly, but less than in Frank's case.

Pat, you just want to assign guilt by association. That's fine, but it doesn't mean DeLay did anything wrong. He won his primary race handily a few weeks ago, which went almost unreported. He'll easily beat the bogus "money laundering" charges against him. And unless someone comes forth with some new info on how he was involved in his former aides' wrongdoing, you, Rodeo and the knee-jerk haters will just wallow in anger and irrelevance. Fine by me.

DeLay is one of my favorites. So yes, I am biased. But the fact is that he has not even been accused of being at all involved with how others cashed in on his name.

The top three aids to "one of your favorite" politicans took bribes in return for official favors.

That speaks volumes.

I can't wait for the housecleaning.

Rodeo, by that standard, you should hate Bill Clinton exponentially more than you do DeLay. And as much as Clinton made my blood boil, I never blamed him for stuff his aides did.

Clinton's top three aids accepted bribes? The "liberal media" must have squashed that story.

And yes, the difference between you and me is that I never defended Clinton acting like a sleaze. Quite the opposite.

The Rovarian mindset won't even allow you to condem a sleaze that sold the majority leader's office, at the very least allowed it to be sold by the three top men that he hired.

That's why the people have had it with the Repub majority. Goosestep conformity worked for a while, but now people realize that there is a bankrupt morality behind the election-winning machine.

Rodeo, whoever accpetd bribes should go to jail, just like Duke Cunningham. I don't defend them AT ALL. I just don't assign guilt by association either. And AFAIK, only Rudy was working for DeLay when he engaged in illegal activity. The others were private sector when they went bad. Again, they should pay for their crimes. And DeLay should not pay for their crimes.

I understand you loud and clear. I predict the electorate will as well.

Having Bush as your guy is good practice I guess. Defending a Congressman that hired three crooks as his top three aids is probably a cakewalk compared to defending no WMDs, no al Queda ties, torture, warrantless wiretapping, Abu Graheb, Katrina, Mission Accopplished, Dubai ports, the "unexpected" insurgency, a trillion dollar war, Harriet Miers, Michael Brown, and whatever bonehead thing the president does next.

God, I forgot all about record, out of control drunken spending and deficits!

Stay the course.

It's amazing what other ills you can link to three former Hill staffers.

Ever play Five Degrees To Kevin Bacon? You must be the world champ.

You should have, Clinton was guilty as sin in the Whitewater affair, and in the FBI files coverup.

The point should be that DeLay is no better than Clinton, and that's a fact.

Because DeLay did what?

Fascinating how you dismiss his greatest crimes. It wont be the first time you defended Clinton by diminishing his corruption...Bar-none, Clinton's worst crime was taking monies from the Chinese Military for the transference of once prohibited ICBM technology...Second place would be allowing Osama to skate.

The big problem is the cheap flow of dis-information and the presentation of partial truths and inuendoes as fact, a process at with both parties are getting better at completing. I like the suggestion from Mr. Dick Cheney, look it up at www.FACTCHECK.org an independent group with no agenda other than to root out the truth.

http://factcheck.org/article377.html

http://www.factcheck.org/article379.html

http://factcheck.org/article371.html

Factcheck is an organ of the liberal organization Annenberg...The leftists are masters of hiding behind benign sounding titles to cloak their agenda.

Mul,

Where can we go to verify that statement? This is the exact organization that Mr. Cheney suggested we use to check facts and I have a very hard time believing he'd be sending anyone to a liberal group...

David, remember when Cheney said that, he gave the wrong URL and CNN quickly called him on it.

No, he suggested and intended for people to go to factcheck.org, but the gave the wrong URL (factcheck.com instead of factcheck.org) which sent people to a Soros site.