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Rick Lee 04-02-2006 06:27 AM

Bob Ney is most definitely in trouble. DeLay will walk scot free, 100%. Here's another one that gets very little coverage because he's a black Dem.

Court Subpoenas Aides of La. Congressman

The Associated Press
Thursday, March 30, 2006; 8:29 PM

WASHINGTON -- A U.S. District Court has issued grand jury subpoenas to six aides to Rep. William Jefferson, a Louisiana Democrat who has been implicated in a bribery case.

In statements read on the House floor Thursday, the aides notified House Speaker Dennis Hastert that they had been served with grand jury subpoenas for testimony issued by the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia.

The court, located in Alexandria, Va., is set to hand down a sentence to a former aide to Jefferson, Brett Pfeffer, who last January pleaded guilty to aiding and abetting bribery of a public official and conspiracy.

Pfeffer, 37, who faces up to 20 years in prison, said a congressman demanded bribes in exchange for his assistance in brokering two African telecommunications deals. Court documents make clear that Jefferson is the accused congressman without specifically naming him.

Jefferson, who has not been charged with a crime, has denied the allegation, saying he has never demanded or accepted anything to perform a service for which he was elected.

Jefferson represents parts of New Orleans that were hardest hit by Hurricane Katrina.

The six staff members _ a district manager, a legislative assistant and four congressional aides _ said in their statements that they had consulted with the Office of General Counsel and determined that compliance with the subpoena "is consistent with the precedents and privileges of the House."

Shuie 04-02-2006 07:13 AM

Lies! Lies! Lies! Political corruption does not exist Louisiana :D

Mulhollanddose 04-02-2006 08:43 AM

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Originally posted by Rodeo
Duke Cunningham. Another bastion of Republican morality.
Lets not forget the communist spies working for Joseph Stalin, knowingly protected and elevated within the Democrat party...or more recently Sandy Bergler doing Clinton cleanup by making sure nobody would ever know the truth about what led to 9-11-01.

Top that.

Rodeo 04-02-2006 08:55 AM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Top that.
You seem to be confused. It's not a contest to determine who is sleazier. Not everything boils down to partisan politics, although I understand that you would have no purpose in life if you could not attack democrats.

Delay is a sleazy Congressman that sold his office to the highest bidder. That's enough for me to kick he and his cronies out.

Rodeo 04-02-2006 09:03 AM

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Originally posted by Rick Lee
DeLay will walk scot free, 100%.
You seem extremely pleased with that pronouncement.

So the fact that DeLay's top three aids have accepted bribes does not bother you?

You think that's a positive thing for our country?

Mulhollanddose 04-02-2006 09:16 AM

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Originally posted by Rodeo
Delay is a sleazy Congressman that sold his office to the highest bidder. That's enough for me to kick he and his cronies out.
That is what politicians do...Ask Johnny Chung of the Clinton WhiteHouse, or ask Ron Brown...oh, I forgot, that bagman ended up dead.

What did Delay do that wasn't good for America?

For example: Clinton sold ICBM technology to the human rights abusing Chinese communist regime.

Rick Lee 04-02-2006 09:22 AM

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Originally posted by Rodeo
You seem extremely pleased with that pronouncement.

So the fact that DeLay's top three aids have accepted bribes does not bother you?

You think that's a positive thing for our country?

Yes I am pleased that DeLay will not be prosecuted for what FORMER employees of his did AFTER they stopped working for him. THEY will be prosecuted, not their FORMER boss.

And I am pleased that he will easily beat the "money laundering" charges, since he never even had the authority to "earmark" political contributions. DeLay does not cut checks on behalf of the RNC and he has no authority to tell them how to do so. If any of those checks were cut illegally, it's on the RNC and not DeLay.

fintstone 04-02-2006 09:37 AM

There you go again Rick.....posting facts instead of innuendo designed to ruin a man's reputation. How positively Republican of you.

Mulhollanddose 04-02-2006 09:42 AM

Today's Democrat tactics, party-wide, make Joseph McCarthy's tactics look like child's play.

This pursuit of Delay is a witchunt. The Democrat party attacking Delay for campaign finance violations is laughable, the height of chutzpah.

Rodeo 04-02-2006 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by Rick Lee
Yes I am pleased that DeLay will not be prosecuted for what FORMER employees of his did AFTER they stopped working for him.
You really should check those "facts" you and fint and Nul suddenly seem so concerned with. I'll chalk it up to an honest mistake, but it does make you look a bit silly. Rudy accepted bribes wile working for Delay, and Abramoff gave bribes to elected officials (all Repubs so far) and their staffs WHILE they were in Congress or working for Congress.

So I ask you again, do you think the Majority Leader's top staff accepting bribes is a good thing for America?

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Mulhollanddose 04-02-2006 10:27 AM

Clowny...As soon as the Clinton's are imprisoned for treason and campaign finance violations (not that the gravity of the alleged Delay crimes come close to that of the Clintons') I will jump on board with you.

Rodeo 04-02-2006 10:29 AM

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Originally posted by fintstone
facts instead of innuendo designed to ruin a man's reputation.
So let's see if you answer the question ... Do we want a majority leader whose top aids accept bribes?

Or would that man's "reputation" be better served if he did not staff his office with crooks that abused the public trust?

Rodeo 04-02-2006 10:32 AM

Bonus quesiton for fint.

Am I a "traitor" for pointing out that Delay's office was sold to the highest bidder?

As for Nul, stick with the Bill Clinton bashing ... it shows exactly how irrelevant you are in 2006.

Mulhollanddose 04-02-2006 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by Rodeo
As for Nul, stick with the Bill Clinton bashing ... it shows exactly how irrelevant you are in 2006.
Just giving you a little much needed perspective.

Let me answer that question for fint: You are a traitor for conspiring in the propaganda war that is focused on undermining a President during wartime, maliciously working for the enemy in the process, and voting for the political party that stands against the Constitution and the Founding Fathers.

fintstone 04-02-2006 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by Rodeo
So let's see if you answer the question ... Do we want a majority leader whose top aids accept bribes?

Or would that man's "reputation" be better served if he did not staff his office with crooks that abused the public trust?

A politician that has folks that work for them who turn out to be dishonest is a problem.....but not unique

Hiring people to work for you because they are dishonest......is uniquely democrat

Delay was a great Majority leader...that is why you and your ilk are going after him.

cool_chick 04-02-2006 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by fintstone
A politician that has folks that work for them who turn out to be dishonest is a problem.....but not unique

Hiring people to work for you because they are dishonest......is uniquely democrat

Seems like a quite a bit of folk in one office here....yet this is just a "problem" to you, whereas some other party when it's the same scenario, it's because they are dishonest because they belong to that party?

1. that makes no logical sense. That would mean that a dishonest person would always join one party and an honest person would always join the other party.

2. How do you know that this one was "just a problem" and the scenario of the other party is "because he or she is dishonest because they belong to that party?" Based on what?

Is your condition on honesty, dishonestly merely based on party affiliation? Genuine question, do you really believe that?

fintstone 04-02-2006 11:27 AM

Read it again CC.

Rick Lee 04-02-2006 12:06 PM

Ok, so it looks like Rudy started this behavior before he left DeLay's office. Still, what does that have to do with DeLay? Has anyone even accused DeLay of being involved? And Rodeo, what do you say about Wm. Jefferson? Are you as passionately anti-corruption when it's a Dem who IS actively involved with his staff's corruption?

Rodeo 04-02-2006 02:49 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Lee
Ok, so it looks like Rudy started this behavior before he left DeLay's office. Still, what does that have to do with DeLay?
What does it have to do with Delay that his top three staffers are crooks that accepted bribes and sold influence? That's what you're asking me?

Are you serious? You want to know what that "has to do with" DeLay?

fastpat 04-02-2006 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by Rodeo
What does it have to do with Delay that his top three staffers are crooks that accepted bribes and sold influence? That's what you're asking me?

Are you serious? You want to know what that "has to do with" DeLay?

Isn't saying DeLay isn't involved similar to what Barney Frank said about his roommate running the homosexual whore service out of Frank's apartment?

We all know their likely guilty, but haven't proof yet. The court of public opinion ought to have some merit here.


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