Invade California not Iran...

Yeah, but like Saddam, he was our tyrant. [Un]Fortunately for the Shah, he didn't live long enough for the wind to blow the other direction.

Utter nonsense. Iran today is the legacy of US intervention beginning with Eisenhower and continuing through the disaster of shooting down the Iranian jetliner.

I'm quickly understanding why the American business today can't improve it's efficiency to a greater extent. It's because you guys are sitting around playing on the Pelican website instead of doing the actual work. You all should embarrassed at the least and when you boil it right down, it's called theft of services. So it is a criminal offense.

Invading Iran is a no win strategy. The gains are debatable but the sacrifices (on both sides) would arguably turn out colossal. It would turn a current breeze of anti-infidel feelings into a world wide hurricane of 4 billion Muslims hating us. Going out of their way (and already meager sense) putting forth a wave of terror and fear. Simply put - they will go apes.

I fear the buggers more than anything - severely islamophobic - but invading them will only result in even more crying mothers.

I am just guessing here, of course..


edit: 'islamophobic' - spell check: Sorry, no suggestions..:D

Uh, some of us are retired, some of us have the day off, and some of us have already put in our 40 for the week.

I guess you're unaware that US worker productivity has been increasing over the past several years.

You must be French :)

Speak for yourself, homey! :p

Work is overrated, anyway.

I'm retired! as well as some consulting. My time is my own and I pay all the bills. Business is done before yanking the crank.

I love how the left points to nationalism as somehow the strongest indicator of fascism. Like it [nationalism] is always a bad thing. They seem to forget communism (worse than fascism) was ultra-nationalistic. I think the left's knee jerk anti-Americanism and anti-patriotism is simply a reaction against American righteousness. They demonize American flag-waving, honest patriotism/nationalism, because they hate that this country is predominantly Christian and not as socialistic or Marxist as they would like...by painting America as fatally flawed they set the stage for a larger government solution, a slow creep towards the superfascism they call communism.

another obtuse strawman. should we expect anything else?

Another use of the word "obtuse" --should we expect anything else? :cool:

I've never done a days work in my life and I don't propose to start now....I did have a job once, but that was Union so it doesn't count...

Yanking the crank... :D

obtuse yanking the crank....
yanking your obtuse crank

either way, one must yank the crank.......

Right on.

But back to the original issue, invading Iran. All you lefties should worry, a lot, because you know who is in charge. The left must support this idea, invasion, because they think Bush is an idiot and only an idiot would invade Iran.

On the other hand only an idiot would wait until Iran gets the bomb. So the right must also support the idea. Iran could already have a bomb. It only took our country 3 years to develop the bomb and it had never been done before. We did not have modern tools and electronics to work with either, just slide rules and very crude instruments, no developed theory. To state that it will take Iran 5 or 10 years to make a bomb is just absurd or is it obtuse?.

War,war, war we must have war is the only mantra I see here.

Iran wants to transfer nuke tech to the wonderful world of the Sudan..

and the Saudis are looking to start building them too.


The dumb-asses, who think Iran's thumbing it's nose at the rest of the world is no big deal, ought to think HARD about what this means for proliferation of nuclear weapons.

(hint hint . ..Every oilrich sandbox will buy & build . .. and SELL all nuclear weapons.)

In a way it's Russia's way of negating US influence. They almost have a strangle hold on W Europe with their natural gas piping.

Russia can turn Iran into off mode anytime it wants just like China can with N Korea.