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stuartj 04-30-2006 09:44 PM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Buddha never considered himself a God, the rest are fantasies. Jesus was no fantasy. You may question his divinity but you cannot question his existence and the fact that he rocked the world 2000+ years ago.
I didnt question the historical veracity of JC. Its fascinating that you have chosen to link religion with the question of Guanatanmo Bay. What would Jesus say about Guanatanomo Bay, Mul? Do unto others as you would have done to you, perhaps?

If you want to talk about who has toughest god, start a thread.

Re the picture. Its a picture. It speaks for itself on the topic at hand.

If you support what is happening at Gunanatanmo, you support similar activity run by all sorts of unpleanast govts thru time immemorial.

Cant think of much that is more anti American than what is being done in your name at Guanatanomo. To support it is to spit in the eye of every thing that the US was founded upon.

And you have yet to make a single point as to why this is not so.

Mulhollanddose 04-30-2006 09:53 PM

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Originally posted by stuartj
Re the picture. Its a picture. It speaks for itself on the topic at hand.
Were you offering the picture to illustrate how dangerous the G'itmo terrorists are?...That is clearly what it portrays, right?

speeder 04-30-2006 09:54 PM

You guys have to understand that my friend Mulholland was kicked off of free republic dot com.

Think about this for a minute.

This would be like Jack Olsen getting kicked off of Pelican or Rennlist for being too enthusiastic about his car. Or more accurately, too loyal to the Porsche corporate HQ if they forgot to build any 911s one year and only built 5 million Cayennes that they could not sell and went bankrupt. Or something. :)

stuartj 04-30-2006 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Were you offering the picture to illustrate how dangerous the G'itmo terrorists are?...That is clearly what it portrays, right?
"They are pampered and coddled, catered to, allowed access to their book of evil, fed and taken care of better than they ever were in their homeland or in their terrorist camps..."

You did write that didnt you, Mul?

What would Jesus say Mul?

http://www.postcardsfromprison.com/p7828.jpg

stuartj 04-30-2006 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by speeder
You guys have to understand that my friend Mulholland was kicked off of free republic dot com.


Ah, The Freepers. Its like a Mensa meeting but different. Somehow.

Mulhollanddose 04-30-2006 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by speeder
You guys have to understand that my friend Mulholland was kicked off of free republic dot com.
Man, you just couldn't wait to share that with the peons, huh?...I just told you that on Friday.

Mulhollanddose 04-30-2006 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by stuartj
Ah, The Freepers. Its like a Mensa meeting but different. Somehow.
Yep, we are the folk that put a bullet in the leftist Dan Rather's head...Something the liberal media didn't appreciate.

Mulhollanddose 04-30-2006 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by stuartj
You did write that didnt you, Mul?

What would Jesus say Mul?
Jesus ain't gonna be as kind to Muslims as I would be.

I repeat: "Were you offering the picture to illustrate how dangerous the G'itmo terrorists are?...That is clearly what it portrays, right?"

stuartj 04-30-2006 10:14 PM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Yep, we are the folk that put a bullet in the leftist Dan Rather's head...Something the liberal media didn't appreciate.
Oh well done. What a service to mankind.

Mulhollanddose 04-30-2006 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by Hugh R
So how do you KNOW 1) that they are coddled, catered to, etc. and 2) That they must be the worst, otherwise "they would not be held". Not that I much care one way or the other, but I'm curious about your logic/thought process. Please elaborate.
They are getting Quarans, allowed prayer to their devil, and are catered to with Islamic fare...They are being treated beyond any conception of similar POW treatment. They are being treated more humanely than even they would expect....In fact they must be thinking to themselves how weak and what utter pussies we are.

stuartj 04-30-2006 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Jesus ain't gonna be as kind to Muslims as I would be.

I repeat: "Were you offering the picture to illustrate how dangerous the G'itmo terrorists are?...That is clearly what it portrays, right?"

Answered above. Having a bad comprehension day?

For you to state that Guantanaomo is some sort of holiday camp is more of your disingenous bulls1t.

And even if it were Disneyland, it does not change the fact that people have been held for years without trial.

On what basis (of fact) can you defend this Mul?

Mulhollanddose 04-30-2006 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by stuartj
Oh well done. What a service to mankind.
What was great about it is that it knocked cBS and the leftist undercover media for the propagandists they are, simultaneously elevating and proving FoxNews credible and objective.

Mulhollanddose 04-30-2006 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by stuartj
For you to state that Guantanaomo is some sort of holiday camp is more of your disingenous bulls1t.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/eib....ImageFile.jpg

stuartj 04-30-2006 10:33 PM

Farkin hysterical.

I think its apparent to everyone that you have nothing of any substance to say.

Sleep well, dream of Monday Night Football, LBJ and widescreen TVs.

Mulhollanddose 04-30-2006 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by stuartj
Sleep well, dream of Monday Night Football, LBJ and widescreen TVs.
I loathe spectator sports, LBJ was a Democrat and I have a projector that throws a 100+ inch screen.

stuartj 04-30-2006 11:41 PM

Ofcourse you do.

The Great Exorcist. I think not Mul. Even, apparently, the Freepers think you are a dullard. That is truly special.

If the enemy of my enemy is my friend- that must make you a friend of the liberals.

LOLOLOL

speeder 05-01-2006 12:24 AM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Man, you just couldn't wait to share that with the peons, huh?...I just told you that on Friday.
I'm sorry. I should have cleared it w/ you first, but it's really funny you have to admit. Come on. :D http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/wat4.gif

fastpat 05-01-2006 03:37 AM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
They will be held until it is safe or prudent to release them. If they are released early they may seek to kill American soldiers (as has happened in the past), if they are held unjustly, tough *****, they are lucky they aren't dead.
Holding them is unlawful. By holding anyone in prison without charges or trial, the federal government is in breach of its' responsibilities under the Constitution.

The federal government must obey the Constitution at all times, no matter where it physically is located. The assertion by the Bush'ists that the full Constitution does not apply in Guantanamo, Cuba is a fiction.

Fortunately, Guantanamo and other parts of the US government Gulag will be coming under the knife of military cutbacks. In that regard the Bush'ists are crapping all over themselves in pursuit of world domination.

Last, it's clear that Americans need a Constitutional Amendment prohibiting the basing of US government forces of any kind outside US borders. We need to do whatever it takes to stop this criminal government's activities.

fastpat 05-01-2006 03:42 AM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Let us not forget who freed the blacks, passed the Civil Rights Act against Democrat filibuster, and is currently the greatest supporter of the Jewish state on the face of Earth...Let's not forget that Islam was arm-in-arm with the Third Reich, and bare a striking resemblance to today's Islam.
Yes, as I've stated before, the Republicans were America's socialist party for most of their history.

Just as they are now.

fastpat 05-01-2006 04:26 AM

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As American as...Irrational Fear
Posted by Ryan W. McMaken at 11:14 AM

Going back at least to the Old Right of the 1930's and 40's, keen observers have pointed out the American penchant for "getting tough" on impoverished sixth-rate foreign countries and their citizens in an effort to feel good about how courageous Americans are. As Rothbard noted about the invasion of Granada: "the average American cheered the U.S. invasion of Grenada to the rafters, righteously enjoying the sight of the U.S. clobbering a tiny island devoid of even a regular army"

This seems to fall right under Mencken's assessment of the history of "Anglo-Saxon empires":

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"To accuse so enterprising and successful a race of cowardice, of course, is to risk immediate derision; nevertheless, I believe that a fair-minded examination of its history will bear me out. Nine-tenths of the great feats of derring-do that its sucklings are taught to venerate in school ... have been wholly lacking in even the most elementary gallantry. Consider, for example, the events attending the extension of the two great empires, English and American. Did either movement evoke any genuine courage and resolution? The answer is plainly no. Both empires were built up primarily by swindling and butchering unarmed savages, and after that by robbing weak and friendless nations. [N]either exposed the folks at home to any serious danger of reprisal ... Moreover, neither great enterprise cost any appreciable amount of blood; neither presented grave and dreadful risks; neither exposed the conqueror to the slightest danger of being made the conquered. The British won most of their vast dominions without having to stand up in a single battle against a civilized and formidable foe, and the Americanos won their continent at the expense of a few dozen puerile skirmishes with savages.

"The Mexican and Spanish Wars I pass over as perhaps too obscenely ungallant to be discussed at all; of the former, U.S. Grant, who fought in it, said that it was 'the most unjust war ever waged by a stronger against a weaker nation'. Who remembers that, during the Spanish War, the whole Atlantic Coast trembled in fear of the Spaniards' feeble fleet, that all New England had hysterics every time a strange coal-barge was sighted on the sky-line, that the safe-deposit boxes of Boston were emptied and their contents transferred to Worcester, and that the Navy had to organize a patrol to save the coast towns from depopulation? Perhaps those Reds, atheists and pro-Germans remember it who also remember that during World War I the entire country went wild with fear of an enemy who, without the aid of divine intervention, obviously could not strike it a blow at all, and that the great moral victory was gained at last with the assistance of twenty-one allies and at odds of eight to one.(In A Mencken Chrestomathy, New York: Knopf, 1949, pp. 173-175)


msk1986911 05-01-2006 04:36 AM

Excellent post; much like listening to Al Franken spar with Rush Limbaugh. The more reasoned argument is typically put forward by the left...more thought and logic, less redneck knee-jerk.

schleg79 05-01-2006 04:58 AM

"Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot!!
- Al Franken, purveyor of "reasoned argument"

Rodeo 05-01-2006 05:01 AM

"Muslims and Democrats are very proficient at disinformation. They both have a bad habit of lying and they are currently working for the same cause..."

- Nul, purveyor of pure, unadulterated sheet

Mulhollanddose 05-01-2006 06:47 AM

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Originally posted by fastpat
Last, it's clear that Americans need a Constitutional Amendment prohibiting the basing of US government forces of any kind outside US borders. We need to do whatever it takes to stop this criminal government's activities.
You are a menace to society. You would have us vulnerable. You would have us announce our weakness to the world and have us exploited. Your vision of world fascism would be one major leap forward. Maybe you are the tool of God, arranging for Armaggedon is your task...or maybe you are just a communist useful idiot that is teetering between senility and psychosis.

fintstone 05-01-2006 06:51 AM

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Originally posted by fastpat
Holding them is unlawful. By holding anyone in prison without charges or trial, the federal government is in breach of its' responsibilities under the Constitution.

The federal government must obey the Constitution at all times, no matter where it physically is located. The assertion by the Bush'ists that the full Constitution does not apply in Guantanamo, Cuba is a fiction.

Fortunately, Guantanamo and other parts of the US government Gulag will be coming under the knife of military cutbacks. In that regard the Bush'ists are crapping all over themselves in pursuit of world domination.

Last, it's clear that Americans need a Constitutional Amendment prohibiting the basing of US government forces of any kind outside US borders. We need to do whatever it takes to stop this criminal government's activities.

Nothing in the constitution that would prohibit what we are doing at GITMO...But, you get a B+ for creativity.

speeder 05-01-2006 07:07 AM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
You are a menace to society. You would have us vulnerable. You would have us announce our weakness to the world and have us exploited. Your vision of world fascism would be one major leap forward. Maybe you are the tool of God, arranging for Armaggedon is your task...or maybe you are just a communist useful idiot that is teetering between senility and psychosis.
The problem in actuality is that invading and occupying Iraq has "exposed our weakness to the world", our weakness is that there are things that the military does very well and other things that it is utterly unsuited for. Or our "weakness to the world" is that we have a system where someone as odious and unpopular as Dick Cheney can basically take over foreign policy for 6+ years. That, my friend, is a weakness.

Mulhollanddose 05-01-2006 07:35 AM

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Originally posted by schleg79
"Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot!!
- Al Franken, purveyor of "reasoned argument"

A little window into how media is disseminated to the world...Thank you for your contribution, but Franken is simply a big fat idiot resorting to meaningless name calling. Franken is a leftist, a liar and a propagandist. He is a classic liberal, a Democrat, a socialist in disguise.

I suggest you listen to Rush Limbaugh for more than what the media covers of him, or what Al Franken says. Listen to Rush for yourself...rushlimbaugh.com.

Rodeo 05-01-2006 07:36 AM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
***Franken is simply a big fat idiot resorting to meaningless name calling***
:D :D :D :D

Mulhollanddose 05-01-2006 07:54 AM

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9...hatsall1vr.jpg

stuartj 05-01-2006 03:00 PM

You are a sad caricature , Mul. Tho you reveal the naked face of the thinking that has permeated elements of political thinking in the US. You do us a service in that regard.

Mulhollanddose 05-01-2006 03:19 PM

You, Stewie, are either a person of very low character, unable to discern high character, or you are evil...One or the other, maybe a mixture of the two.

stuartj 05-01-2006 03:37 PM

You are a person of high character, are you? More faith based thinking, Mul. Id be concerned if you said differently.

You have revealed yourself in this thread to be a hollow man, unable to to discern fact from fiction, unable to critically evaluate. You just regurgiatate Freeper dogma.

Your only redeeming quality is that you remind us that there are those out there that think like you, and that they are entitled to vote.

You a sad, scared, gormless wanker indeed.

Stuart

Rodeo 05-01-2006 03:38 PM

Every attempt to reason with Nul ends badly :(

Mulhollanddose 05-01-2006 03:41 PM

You remind me of a homeless person yelling at thin air.

Aurel 05-01-2006 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
You remind me of a homeless person yelling at thin air.
And you, Mul, would be the thin air. That pretty much sums up the consistance of your thoughts :D

Aurel

fastpat 05-01-2006 06:39 PM

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Originally posted by fintstone
Nothing in the constitution that would prohibit what we are doing at GITMO...But, you get a B+ for creativity.
Yes, the Constitution prohibits the federal governments actions in Guantanamo, Cuba; and "rendition" of prisoners as well.

Anything not expressly authorized by the Constitution to the federal government is prohibited to the federal government.

That you think otherwise demonstrates, yet again, how un-American you are.

To the core, I'd expect.

pwd72s 05-01-2006 06:44 PM

Why don't we just kill them all and take the oil? :rolleyes:

fastpat 05-01-2006 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
You are a menace to society.
Yeah, I'm menacing society with freedom. I'm sure that frightens you.

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You would have us vulnerable.
To whom? To what? Be specific.

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You would have us announce our weakness to the world and have us exploited.
America isn't weak. The US government is the world's largest bully today. And, get this, most of the world knows that.

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Your vision of world fascism would be one major leap forward.
Trying to tar me with your political philosophy again, eh. Didn't work all the other times you've tried it, and, get this again, it's not working this time either.

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Maybe you are the tool of God, arranging for Armaggedon is your task...or maybe you are just a communist useful idiot that is teetering between senility and psychosis.
Maybe, you're a know nothing that's talking out of his arse because his mouth knows better?

Naw, both are on par.

stuartj 05-01-2006 06:51 PM

I am listening right now to an interview with the CO of Gunatanaomo Bay. He confims David Hicks sits in a concrete cell 22 hours a day. He has been held for more than 4 years. He has not been tried, and there is no immedaiate prospect of his trial in military tribunal or other. The Col in charge has called Hicks un-cooperative, and confirms he has been denied a change of clothes for three weeks.

Mjr Michael Mori, USMC, Hick's lawyer, says Hicks uncoperatiion comes from the fact that he speaks English and consequenltly calls the guards on the dubiuos games they play with inmates.

4 years. Locked up 22 hours a day. Shackled. Beaten. Tortured. No charges. No trial. No propect of either.

Is this what America now stands for in the world?

fastpat 05-01-2006 06:57 PM

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Originally posted by stuartj
I am listening right now to an interview with the CO of Gunatanaomo Bay. He confims David Hicks sits in a concrete cell 22 hours a day. He has been held for more than 4 years. He has not been tried, and there is no immedaiate prospect of his trial in military tribunal or other. The Col in charge has called Hicks un-cooperative, and confirms he has been denied a change of clothes for three weeks.

Mjr Michael Mori, USMC, Hick's lawyer, says Hicks uncoperatiion comes from the fact that he speaks English and consequenltly calls the guards on the dubiuos games they play with inmates.

4 years. Locked up 22 hours a day. Shackled. Beaten. Tortured. No charges. No trial. No propect of either.

Is this what America now stands for in the world?

It's what Mul wants and fintstone is working tirelessly to achieve; moreover they want this inside America itself.

More than it already is.


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