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You have avoided the question. Its not one of guilt or innocence. Its a question of holding people indefinately without charge or trial. That is anti American.
They will be held until it is safe or prudent to release them. If they are released early they may seek to kill American soldiers (as has happened in the past), if they are held unjustly, tough *****, they are lucky they aren't dead.

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Im suggesting nothing Mul. It is you who is blindly defending the fact that your country is depriving people of their liberty indefinately.

Try him. If he is guilty, hang him.

Depriving individuals of their liberty, torturing them (and this has been established- wanna see the pics again?) and denying them trial is un-American.

It flies in the face of every noble and liberatarian principle that the United States was founded on. Argue that it does not, or STFU.
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They are pampered and coddled, catered to, allowed access to their book of evil, fed and taken care of better than they ever were in their homeland or in their terrorist camps...Those that are held are the worst of the worst, otherwise they would not be held.
So how do you KNOW 1) that they are coddled, catered to, etc. and 2) That they must be the worst, otherwise "they would not be held". Not that I much care one way or the other, but I'm curious about your logic/thought process. Please elaborate.
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The words "religion" and "rational" do not belong in the same sentence unless you put "isn't" between them. To think otherwise means you don't understand religion, rational thought, or both.
Then how do you explain this?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

Is it not rational and religious ('Christian' if your denial betrays your logic) all wrapped up in one poetic knot?

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So how do you KNOW 1) that they are coddled, catered to, etc. and 2) That they must be the worst, otherwise "they would not be held". Not that I much care one way or the other, but I'm curious about your logic/thought process. Please elaborate.
Because I have no reason to believe otherwise. Further, the left and the Muslims have a mutual interest in undermining the war and the President, so they cannot be trusted. Further, I trust the American military infinitely more than ANY Democrat or Muslim (who have a mutual interest in undermining the war and the President).
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So how do you KNOW 1) that they are coddled, catered to, etc. and 2) That they must be the worst, otherwise "they would not be held". Not that I much care one way or the other, but I'm curious about your logic/thought process. Please elaborate.
Read between the lines. From the article claiming poor treatment:

" I hand Mousovi a Starbucks chai, the closest thing to Afghan tea I've been able to find on the base. Then I open up boxes of pizza, cookies and baklava"

It really does not sound like the black hole of Calcutta to me. I imagine there are few in the Gulag that would not love to trade places.
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Then how do you explain this?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

Is it not rational and religious ('Christian' if your denial betrays your logic) all wrapped up in one poetic knot?
wow. your grasp of logical reasoning is just stunning. no, really...just stunning.
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thanks man, very Christian (by which I mean 'rational') of you.
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Because I have no reason to believe otherwise. Further, the left and the Muslims have a mutual interest in undermining the war and the President, so they cannot be trusted. Further, I trust the American military infinitely more than ANY Democrat or Muslim (who have a mutual interest in undermining the war and the President).
Faith based.

No basis in fact.

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Dip him in pig fat and set him on fire...send pics to al jazeera.
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Creator. Mmm.

Jaweh. Bhudda. Allah. Norse. Ra. Ptah. Sokar. Osiris. Æsir. Yoruba Orisha. Zues.

Pick your fairytale.
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Mul, you are mounting a truly pathetic defence.

Why do you hate America so much?
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Creator. Mmm.

Jaweh. Bhudda. Allah. Norse. Ra. Ptah. Sokar. Osiris. Æsir. Yoruba Orisha. Zues.

Pick your fairytale.
Buddha never considered himself a God, the rest are fantasies. Jesus was no fantasy. You may question his divinity but you cannot question his existence and the fact that he rocked the world 2000+ years ago.
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Mul, you are mounting a truly pathetic defence.

Why do you hate America so much?
How dare you get between a Muslim and his 72 virgins...Kill em all.
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A Gitmo inmate strolls off to recieve his daily manicure and mud treatment.
Stewie, the website you pulled your jumpsuited Islamic murderer picture (a picture you are offering suggests something it does not) from is trying to see that Bush planned 911.

Do you believe this?

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Because I have no reason to believe otherwise. Further, the left and the Muslims have a mutual interest in undermining the war and the President, so they cannot be trusted. Further, I trust the American military infinitely more than ANY Democrat or Muslim (who have a mutual interest in undermining the war and the President).
Wow, talk about critical reasoning and its ugly stepsister logical thought process....."Because I have no reason to believe otherwise" Don't get me wrong, I supported the Iraq thing initially, now I think its time to get out and let the Iraquis sort it out, and if gas goes to $10/gallon so be it. But your critical thinking is less than I would have expected. I'm very disappointed, I thought you were better than that.
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This might explain it...hit it, Boss:

Madman drummers bummers and Indians in the summer with a teenage diplomat
In the dumps with the mumps as the adolescent pumps his way into his hat
With a boulder on my shoulder, feelin' kinda older, I tripped the merry-go-round
With this very unpleasing sneezing and wheezing, the calliope crashed to the ground
Some all-hot half-shot was headin' for the hot spot, snappin' his fingers, clappin' his hands
And some fleshpot mascot was tied into a lover's knot with a whatnot in her hand
And now young Scott with a slingshot finally found a tender spot and throws his lover in the sand
And some bloodshot forget-me-not whispers, "Daddy's within earshot, save the buckshot, turn up the band"

And she was blinded by the light
Cut loose like a deuce, another runner in the night
Blinded by the light
She got down but she never got tight, but she'll make it alright

Some brimstone baritone anti-cyclone rolling stone preacher from the East
He says, "Dethrone the dictaphone, hit it in its funny bone, that's where they expect it least"
And some new-mown chaperone was standin' in the corner all alone, watchin' the young girls dance
And some fresh-sown moonstone was messin' with his frozen zone to remind him of the feeling of romance

Yeah, he was blinded by the light
Cut loose like a deuce, another runner in the night
Blinded by the light
He got down but he never got tight, but he's gonna make it tonight

Some silicone sister with her manager's mister told me I got what it takes
She said, "I'll turn you on, sonny, to something strong if you play that song with the funky break"
And Go-Cart Mozart was checkin' out the weather chart to see if it was safe to go outside
And little Early-Pearly came by in her curly-wurly and asked me if I needed a ride
Oh, some hazard from Harvard was skunked on beer, playin' backyard bombardier
Yes, and Scotland Yard was trying hard, they sent some dude with a calling card, he said, "Do what you like, but don't do it here"
Well, I jumped up, turned around, spit in the air, fell on the ground and asked him which was the way back home
He said, "Take a right at the light, keep goin' straight until night, and then, boy, you're on your own"
And now in Zanzibar, a shootin' star was ridin' in a side car, hummin' a lunar tune
Yes, and the avatar said, "Blow the bar but first remove the cookie jar, we're gonna teach those boys to laugh too soon"
And some kidnapped handicap was complainin' that he caught the clap from some mousetrap he bought last night
Well, I unsnapped his skull cap and between his ears I saw a gap but figured he'd be all right

He was just blinded by the light
Cut loose like a deuce, another runner in the night
Blinded by the light
Mama always told me not to look into the sights of the sun
Oh, but Mama, that's where the fun is
I was blinded
I was blinded
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Muslims and Democrats are very proficient at disinformation. They both have a bad habit of lying and they are currently working for the same cause...This is plenty of reason to believe what I believe. It is more trustworthy analysis than anything you, Patsy or Rodeo have offered in this thread.
Subtract a few decades and you could probably replace your targets there with Blacks and Jews, maybe Asians too. I suspect tomorrow it will be Mexicans. God bless you Mul, its you against the world.
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But your critical thinking is less than I would have expected. I'm very disappointed, I thought you were better than that.
I am a big picture thinker. Hopefully some day you will see it.
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Subtract a few decades and you could probably replace your targets there with Blacks and Jews,
Let us not forget who freed the blacks, passed the Civil Rights Act against Democrat filibuster, and is currently the greatest supporter of the Jewish state on the face of Earth...Let's not forget that Islam was arm-in-arm with the Third Reich, and bare a striking resemblance to today's Islam.

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