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nine_one_4 06-22-2006 05:23 PM

7 arrested in Sears Tower plot
 
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/22/terror/main1744608.shtml

I only read the headline but what are the odds that those arrested are Muslim and brown? If they are Muslim and brown is it just coincidence? Should the FBI use racial profiling? I'm going to read the article now to see if i was correct. Lol.

nine_one_4 06-22-2006 05:25 PM

Well, all the article says is:

"The official told The Associated Press the alleged plotters were mainly Americans with no apparent ties to al Qaeda or other foreign terrorist organizations. "

but I'm sticking with my original assumption. Anyone want to wager me?

914GT 06-22-2006 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by nine_one_4
Well, all the article says is:

"The official told The Associated Press the alleged plotters were mainly Americans with no apparent ties to al Qaeda or other foreign terrorist organizations. "

but I'm sticking with my original assumption. Anyone want to wager me?

No. It's got the 'Religion of Peace' written all over it. The media will not be able to suppress this as much as they would like to.

"The men — part of a radical Black Muslim group — were planning terror acts in Miami and Chicago, officials say."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13491653/

From ABC:

"The group has been under surveillance for some time and was infilitrated by a government informant who allegedly led them to believe he was an Islamic radical, a Justice Department official said."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2109053


The Kos Kidz are already in a tizzy over this:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/6/22/194453/337
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/6/22/21208/3462

Joeaksa 06-22-2006 06:38 PM

Its only going to get worse. Not that we need to profile but have any of the terrorists in the last 10 years NOT been Muslim?

lendaddy 06-22-2006 06:42 PM

Re: 7 arrested in Sears Tower plot
 
Quote:

Originally posted by nine_one_4
but what are the odds that those arrested are Muslim and brown?

Mikey, is he cute? Is he brown? Would he like to join us for a cocktail? Is he polite? Is he clean? Have him take off his shoes. Don't let him go!

914GT 06-22-2006 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by Joeaksa
Its only going to get worse. Not that we need to profile but have any of the terrorists in the last 10 years NOT been Muslim?
It's unfortunate, but that's the way it is. There's no room for political correctness. But considering the islamic radicals are actively trying to recruit light-skinned people of European descent, including women, it would be stupid to only focus on people of a particular appearance.


Update: ABC News changed the original suspects' descriptions of 'African-Americans' to 'U.S. citizens'. This is a 'politically correct' media description similar to last years' French rioters only referred to as 'youths'.

Don Plumley 06-22-2006 06:58 PM

Last I checked Timothy McVeigh was quite pale...

914GT 06-22-2006 07:09 PM

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Originally posted by Don Plumley
Last I checked Timothy McVeigh was quite pale...
Yes. And he formed a vast worldwide network of white male fertilizer bombers who quoted Scriptures. They would usually chant 'Jesus Christ, I hope this works!' as they poured the diesel fuel into the ammonium nitrate. But the evil U.S. government put the mastermind to an early demise.

Mulhollanddose 06-22-2006 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by Don Plumley
Last I checked Timothy McVeigh was quite pale...
Tim McVeigh was anything but common; quite extraordinary really...Not so with terrorism; it is monolithically Islamic. State sanctioned terrorism and human rights abuses are often conducted by secular, socialist or communist governments.

nostatic 06-22-2006 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by 914GT
Yes. And he formed a vast worldwide network of white male fertilizer bombers who quoted Scriptures. They would usually chant 'Jesus Christ, I hope this works!' as they poured the diesel fuel into the ammonium nitrate. But the evil U.S. government put the mastermind to an early demise.
there's more of them than you think...

914GT 06-22-2006 07:25 PM

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Originally posted by nostatic
there's more of them than you think...
None here. But I'll keep looking....


Damn! Struck out again!

None here either.

Jeff Higgins 06-22-2006 07:34 PM

I spread fertilizer on my lawn today. I discussed the Bible with a co-worker. I rode in a diesel truck. I even wore traditional WASP heagear, a baseball cap. I hope Homeland Security doesn't find out. I'm sure they are diligently looking for those precursors in every population, since it's no fair to profile.

914GT 06-22-2006 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by Jeff Higgins
I spread fertilizer on my lawn today. I discussed the Bible with a co-worker. I rode in a diesel truck. I even wore traditional WASP heagear, a baseball cap. I hope Homeland Security doesn't find out. I'm sure they are diligently looking for those precursors in every population, since it's no fair to profile.
Ditch the baseball cap for a 'W' cap and you'll be OK.

Joeaksa 06-22-2006 08:45 PM

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Originally posted by nostatic
there's more of them than you think...
You are correct but unfortunately there are more of them on both sides. Eventually they will pop their heads up where it will be shot or cut off but this one will take a while.

Tobra 06-22-2006 08:56 PM

How about young, disenchanted white males? Seems like they pick up guns from time to time in public places, Post Office, High School or college(Anyone remember Charles Whitman, an Eagle Scout for cryin' out loud)

They don't blow up buildings so much, seems like a popular tactic for the religion of peace, or in places frequented by its adherents any event.

The next time a grey haired old lady, pretty much whatever color you like, white-brown-black blows something up on purpose, they can start watching Bingo Parlors, until then, stick to the Mosques.

dd74 06-22-2006 09:33 PM

So what it really comes down to is Muslim Fundamentalists are better terrorists than pissed off white trash? At least in the bang for brains factor?

And sure, there've been other terrorists in the last ten years who weren't Muslim. Aren't the IRA still kicking it around Belfast?

svandamme 06-22-2006 10:55 PM

they cannot be Muslim Terrorists, as that would ruin Mulls rant about centralizing the scumbags in the War in Iraq, and how all that is part of the Bush great Masterplan, that will go down in history as pure dead quality...

svandamme 06-23-2006 05:23 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/06/23/miami.raids/index.html?section=cnn_topstories

oh, huh ? Mull !
wtf !


how come there are still islamofanatics in the US??
is the "wecentralizetheevildoeersinIraq" tactic failing then or what???

i mean , think of all the money and GI's that can be saved by simply doubling the FBI's budget... it would still cost a lot less then the War in Iraq, and i'm sure would still be efficient at catching baddies on US soil...(i mean you cna throw billions at your centralisation tactict, but if it don't work, it don't work.. move on...

we need answers Mull , and we need em now
please come up with a new fairytale, think hard ... you can do it!!

914GT 06-23-2006 06:32 AM

You're starting to hyperventilate, Stijn. Slow down on the pot. You can thank liberal 'multiculturalism' and illegal immigration for allowing the islamic enemy-lovers into this country. A smaller version of a much bigger looming problem that you have in your little country. Also, notice that the scumbags in Florida were in contact with an informant with the FBI posing as al-Qaeda. They were not in contact with the real al-Qaeda in Iraq, learning how to build IEDs or smuggle various nasty items into the country. The Iraq war put a huge dent in al-Qaeda's operation and effectiveness around the world, but the Islamic disease is worldwide. It will not disappear overnight. Now relax and go back to your joint.

svandamme 06-23-2006 06:38 AM

no sj1t sherlock
but whatever you just ranted, still doesn't make Mulls bs about "we centralized the scumbags in IRaq and that's why we are there" true...

URY914 06-23-2006 06:39 AM

They would have to have been black/brown to be able to get in and out of that part of Miami. If you are white and in Liberty City you have to believe in some form of a God if you want to get out.

cool_chick 06-23-2006 06:45 AM

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Originally posted by 914GT
You're starting to hyperventilate, Stijn. Slow down on the pot. You can thank liberal 'multiculturalism' and illegal immigration for allowing the islamic enemy-lovers into this country.
There we have it! Our founding fathers and everything our country stands for for 200+ years is now considered "liberal."

Even the statue of liberty is "liberal" huh?

LMFAO

BTW, hate isn't innate, it's created and fostered....

techweenie 06-23-2006 06:45 AM

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Originally posted by Tobra
How about young, disenchanted white males? Seems like they pick up guns from time to time in public places, Post Office, High School or college(Anyone remember Charles Whitman, an Eagle Scout for cryin' out loud)

They don't blow up buildings so much, seems like a popular tactic for the religion of peace, or in places frequented by its adherents any event.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1151073907.jpg

914GT 06-23-2006 06:49 AM

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Originally posted by svandamme
no sj1t sherlock
but whatever you just ranted, still doesn't make Mulls bs about "we centralized the scumbags in IRaq and that's why we are there" true...

Canada was not involved in Iraq yet they recently busted a islamic terror cell there. There are islamic terror cells ('home grown or whatever) worldwide but so far, they have not been able to acquire weapons to wipe out hundreds or thousands of people. You cannot prove that if the war in Iraq hadn't happened, that these other terror cells would not have been receiving substantial assistance from al-Qaeda in Iraq or in that area. It's logical to believe that if Saddam was still in business he would have been actively promoting/supporting terror in other countries, including your own.

Nathans_Dad 06-23-2006 06:50 AM

CC, you don't happen to work in the Sears tower, do you?

cool_chick 06-23-2006 06:55 AM

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Originally posted by Nathans_Dad
CC, you don't happen to work in the Sears tower, do you?
No, I don't. It's not far from here....

Nathans_Dad 06-23-2006 06:56 AM

Ah, just wondering.

914GT 06-23-2006 06:56 AM

The weenie like pictures. I can find a lot more than he can.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1151074527.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1151074536.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1151074545.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1151074554.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1151074565.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1151074577.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1151074585.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1151074593.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1151074603.jpg

lendaddy 06-23-2006 06:59 AM

That's a crazy coincidence!

svandamme 06-23-2006 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 914GT
Canada was not involved in Iraq yet they recently busted a islamic terror cell there. There are islamic terror cells ('home grown or whatever) worldwide but so far, they have not been able to acquire weapons to wipe out hundreds or thousands of people. You cannot prove that if the war in Iraq hadn't happened, that these other terror cells would not have been receiving substantial assistance from al-Qaeda in Iraq or in that area. It's logical to believe that if Saddam was still in business he would have been actively promoting/supporting terror in other countries, including your own.
that is not what i'm argueing

what i'm argueing is that Mulls current excuse for the war in Iraq is completely debunked by these arrests, these arrests proove that the bad guys are not at all centralized in Iraq.
and instead of spending billions in Iraq supposedly to protect the homefront(yeah right) the FBI does it for real, with only a fraction of the budget


if you're going to argue about something ,then at least stick to the arguement instead of freestyling your way into something else... Focus !! have you taken your ADHD Ritaline today??

914GT 06-23-2006 07:04 AM

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Originally posted by cool_chick
There we have it! Our founding fathers and everything our country stands for for 200+ years is now considered "liberal."

Even the statue of liberty is "liberal" huh?

LMFAO

BTW, hate isn't innate, it's created and fostered....

Ahhh, the good old days. When this country was more selective to who was coming in. Ensuring they weren't carrying diseases. When immigrants wanted to come in to be Americans and learn English, and want to work hard rather than get on a welfare program. There are still those kind of immigrants, but unfortunately the doors have been thrown open to many who don't share those values. Let me know if the immigration policies of today - in the land of the ACLU - are the same as when the Statue of Liberty of built.

techweenie 06-23-2006 07:11 AM

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Originally posted by 914GT
The weenie like pictures. I can find a lot more than he can.
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That's because you didn't confine your response to the issue of bombing buildings, like I did. If you see my post in context, you should understand. Or maybe not.

914GT 06-23-2006 07:15 AM

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Originally posted by svandamme
have you taken your ADHD Ritaline today??
No, I don't use drugs like many of you folks over in Europe. I'm fine and very calm. I'm trying to understand, though, why you're worked up over these terrorist-wannabes in Florida when there's already been two big terrorist events in Europe. You obviously know the disease of islam has spread worldwide. It's like a bunch of ants. They are crawling all over the place, but if you're going to destroy them you go after the ant hill. Starting poking in the ant hill and watch them all come running back to defend their nest. So now al-Qaeda's days are numbered in Iraq. Expect to see their little scattered groups try to pull something off to get attention.

svandamme 06-23-2006 07:18 AM

lol, i'm not worked up , not even rattled by them 2 events in Europe
it takes more then that to upset me ( and i think most other Europeans http://www.werenotafraid.com/ )

so what if they blow up the Metro or Train... i drive Porsches.. and i say HA! to them terrorists ...

Joeaksa 06-23-2006 07:21 AM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
That's a crazy coincidence!
And as well they all bow towards Mecca to pray five times a day! Imagine that! Are we seeing a trend here?

EdT82SC 06-23-2006 07:51 AM

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Originally posted by Don Plumley
Last I checked Timothy McVeigh was quite pale...
So is Eric Rudolph.

nostatic 06-23-2006 08:21 AM

so do we kill all Muslims, or just forbid them from coming to this country?

Mulhollanddose 06-23-2006 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 914GT
So now al-Qaeda's days are numbered in Iraq. Expect to see their little scattered groups try to pull something off to get attention.
And expect Democrats to defend the rights of terrorists and then to blame Bush if something goes down here at home...The trick is actively working to protect and defend terrorists (protecting their "civil rights") and once they do their damage you blame Bush...Do you see how they work together?

Mulhollanddose 06-23-2006 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by nostatic
so do we kill all Muslims, or just forbid them from coming to this country?
Bomb Mecca during the Haj, then work your way out to their holiest sites until they realize that their god is a hoax.

svandamme 06-23-2006 08:39 AM

but Mull, surely that wouldn't happen if the "centralize the fight in Iraq" thing were true??? so your now saying it's the liberals fault , it's not a flawed repuhblican strategy?? wait a minute ? who's currently in control in the US ? liberals or repuhblicans??


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