Now Hizbollah Gets Into The Act -- 2 IDF Captured. "Act of War"

[Overpaid Slacker]

7 IDF killed and 2 captured in raids by Hizbollah. Israeli PM Olmert calls this an "Act of War" by Lebanon.

Israel is reportedly activating its reserves....

Olmert promised a "very painful and far-reaching" response.

It's about f*cking time. There has to be a real, full-on, get-down fight over there. Get it over with, extinguish the shytbags and move on.

Godspeed.

JP

[BlueSkyJaunte]

Werd.

[gaijindabe]

The proverbial camel's back is broken. Likely to get worse before it gets better..

[turbo6bar]

Say hello to $100+ oil. This might hurt really bad. I don't blame the Israelis.

[Tobra]

I can't think of another country that would go as far as the Israelis have to try and avoid a shooting war. I am afraid the Syrians have a bunch of stuff they got from Saddam, the elusive "non-existent" weapons.

Had to happen sooner or later, looks like sooner

[Overpaid Slacker]

The State Department (in a shocking display of non-toadyness) blamed Iran and Syria for the attacks on Israel.

Looks like Boy Assad is finally going to pay for his proxy war against Israel through Lebanon (if not his support of fundamentalist murderers in Iraq). Please, let it be really really really painful for him.

JP

[Tervuren]

Originally posted by Noah
Hezbollah and Hamas are armed, funded, and organized by Iran and Syria.

When Iran and Syria are dealt with, Hezbollah and Hamas will cease to exist.

I'm not familiar with Hezbollah, but I don't think Hamas will cease to exist.

[EdT82SC]

Originally posted by Tervuren
I'm not familiar with Hezbollah, but I don't think Hamas will cease to exist.

I'm sure neither one will cease to exist, but without the resources provided by Iran and Syria, Hezbollah and Hamas would not be able to perform anywhere near as many terrorist attacks as they do now. Right now they are attacking Israel narly every day with missiles, and other attacks.

And I agree. No other country in the world has acted with the restraint that Israel has.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Let's hope Israel sees this as an excuse to wipe some of the extremists permanently off the map instead of a mamby-pamby half-assed response that only preserves the real hatred and threat for another day. These people are like roaches; I say wipe 'em out now.

And even more kudos to Israel for doing it themselves instead of trying to sucker the U.S. into doing it for them. They get points for that in my book. 'bout time.

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by Noah
Hezbollah and Hamas are armed, funded, and organized by Iran and Syria.

When Iran and Syria are dealt with, Hezbollah and Hamas will cease to exist.

Just returned from Beirut and there will be a lot of happy Christians there if this happens.

Its time for a big can of whoup a$$ to be opened there. Neither side is without guilt but Hamas and hezbollah need to be eliminated IMHO.

[sammyg2]

If past actions are indicitive, Israel will not beat around the bush. They will kick as$ and take names. It doesn't taske them very long either:

1967 May: Forces on both Arab and Israeli sides of the borders are mobilized.
June 5 1967: Israel attacks Egypt, Syria and Jordan. Israel achieved great victories immediately, especially on the Egyptian front, where Egyptian air crafts are wiped out after effective bombing of air strips.
June 7 1967: The strategically important Egyptian Sharm el-Sheikh is captured.
— Jordan surrenders to Israel, after having lost East Jerusalem and the West Bank.
June 8 1967: The entire Sinai comes under Israeli control. Later that evening, Israeli fights on the Egyptian front cease.
June 10 1967: Syria surrenders, after seeing Golan Heights come under Israeli control.
On June 11th, (the 7th day) they rested.

The Yom Kippur War, Ramadan War or October War, also known as the 1973 Arab-Israeli War, was fought from October 6 to October 26, 1973, between Israel and a coalition of Arab nations led by Egypt and Syria. The war began on the day of Yom Kippur with a surprise joint attack by Egypt and Syria. They invaded the Sinai and Golan Heights, respectively, which had been captured by Israel in 1967 during the Six-Day War.

The Egyptians and Syrians advanced during the first 24–48 hours, after which momentum began to swing in Israel's favor. By the second week of the war, the Syrians had been pushed entirely out of the Golan Heights. In the Sinai to the south, the Israelis had struck at the "seam" between two invading Egyptian armies, crossed the Suez Canal (where the old ceasefire line had been), and cut off an entire Egyptian army just as a United Nations cease-fire came into effect.

[dd74]

Originally posted by turbo6bar
Say hello to $100+ oil.

This is what concerns me. What happens between Israel and other terrorist nations shouldn't be a U.S. concern. But a further rise in oil prices because of this, could really deal the U.S. a blow.

So what do we do? Should we nuke the terrorist nations until they capitulate?

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Nah, then Hallyburton can't reap any profits - we need conventional "boots on the ground" warfare in order to assure the capture of viable oil fields, not smouldering radioactive ones. The cost in American lives doesn't matter of course - they're primarily recruits from out of poor neighborhoods anyway. If need be we can simply ratchet up the draft while providing a loophole for well-off/connected kids to avoid it. . . like the National Guard for example. . .

[dd74]

There'll be a draft, all right. There has to be a draft to tackle this trident of evil.

[Tobra]

The armed forces do not want a draft, but of course it is not up to them. I don't see the draft coming back myself. It is not politically expedient for either party to back it, hence, it won't happen, even if it should.

I personally think that there should be a mandatory service between HS and college, Armed Forces, Peace Corps, Civilian Conservation Corps(or something like it). If people had invested time personally in the country, perhaps they would not be so frickin' apathetic.

[BlueSkyJaunte]

I like Heinlein's idea: you can vote only if you've served.

[nostatic]

I like Heinekin's idea: drink 'till you puke, repeat when necessary.

[dd74]

Originally posted by Tobra

I personally think that there should be a mandatory service between HS and college, Armed Forces, Peace Corps, Civilian Conservation Corps(or something like it). If people had invested time personally in the country, perhaps they would not be so frickin' apathetic.

I agree on principle. However, I can't imagine how that would work with a population close to 300,000,000 people. And you could forget the illegals, although...

...it might be a good way to control the illegals, now that I think about it.

Anyway, unfortunately, it's a pipe dream.

[dd74]

Originally posted by nostatic
I like Heinekin's idea: drink 'till you puke, repeat when necessary.

That's Schlitz's law. I think Old Milwaulkee's is drink until dead.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Most of the people that drink Old Milwaukee look like they're already dead. A lot smell like it too.

I agree - some sort of civic service as mandatory from 18-20 or 18-22. It'd be a good thing as long as the individuals had some say over the form and manner of their service. It'd push a lot of the do-nothing deadweights out of gubmint jobs that could be done by energetic youthful individuals, plus people (as was rightly said) would have a stake in their country.

Many European nations (and Israel, FWIW) have similar mandatory service requirements - not always military either.

I bet the college and university industry and their backers (banks) would oppose it though. . . Currently they make a KILLING off of charging indecisive young kids a fortune to stay in college screwing off and floundering around for years figuring out what they want. There'd be a lot fewer "six-year-program" students (and correspondingly less revenue) if more mature and grounded early 20-somethings entered college instead of teenagers looking for an excuse to f*ck and get drunk all the time.

It's a good idea. I support it.