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snowman 07-23-2006 09:26 PM

Science only tells us HOW things work, NOT WHY things work.

Mulhollanddose 07-23-2006 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by snowman
Certainly some species must evolve faster than others. THere must be at least ONE bit of evidence.
You would think so wouldn't you?...but wait, they have a concocted explanation for this inconvenient fact!

Nader 07-23-2006 10:44 PM

From Craig's List

Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian

10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."

3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian

Mulhollanddose 07-23-2006 10:51 PM

I would expect ignorance from craigslist...a whole lot of it.

Nader 07-23-2006 10:57 PM

Silly fundamentalist!

Mulhollanddose 07-23-2006 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nader
Silly fundamentalist!
The craigs list offering drips with Christian hate and outright intolerance...How much you wanna bet that the pen that scribbled it has also penned apologias aplenty in defense of Islam?

snowman 07-24-2006 02:09 PM

I am not a christian fundamentalist, but I take offense at the total lack of respect for other people that the poster of this list shows.

Hate, intolerance, lack of respect, typical of many homos and athiests. Everything they claim to be offended by, they are even more guilty of, thats a total lack of respect for others.

Moses 07-24-2006 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by snowman

Hate, intolerance, lack of respect, typical of many homos and athiests...

That's the funniest thing I've read in a long time. :D :D :D

livi 07-24-2006 03:02 PM

Small wonder they can not come to an agreement in Iraq or Palestine when this web topic is capable of stirring up so much aggravation.

IROC 07-24-2006 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by snowman
Hate, intolerance, lack of respect, typical of many homos and athiests.
At least you can spell 'atheists' correctly. :rolleyes:

Mike

trekkor 07-24-2006 03:56 PM

I can tell this is going to get rowdy...


KT

Jims5543 07-24-2006 04:01 PM

Baby Jesus is crying now.

sammyg2 07-24-2006 04:08 PM

Thanks Nader, only two more spots to go and my ignore list will be full :D SmileWavy

RoninLB 07-24-2006 04:15 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1153786538.jpg

widebody911 07-24-2006 04:49 PM

Hey Fundies: care to address any specific points in the list, or are ad-hominem attacks against those who wrote and posted the list the limit of your repertoire?

Quote:

Originally posted by Nader
Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian

10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."

3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian


Nathans_Dad 07-24-2006 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by widebody911
Hey Fundies: care to address any specific points in the list, or are ad-hominem attacks against those who wrote and posted the list the limit of your repertoire?
Interesting how you think you will get intelligent discussion by calling out the "fundies"...

:rolleyes:

Hope you guys are enjoying your Christian bashing again...gotta get it in at least once a month, right?

trekkor 07-24-2006 05:05 PM

I thought this was interesting:

fundamentalists-Wikipedia

Looks like it has many, many possible meanings.

I thought the posted list was off topic babble, anyway.

Something we're all guilty of from time to time...


KT

widebody911 07-24-2006 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nathans_Dad
Interesting how you think you will get intelligent discussion by calling out the "fundies"...

You're right - those are mutally exclusive concepts.

Anyone seen The Simpsons last night?

trekkor 07-24-2006 05:33 PM

I'll be back in a couple of hours...Post something good.

I'm ready.


KT

Jims5543 07-24-2006 06:01 PM

I am a "fundi" and cannto prove to you any more that creation is a fact that you can prove evolution is a fact.

I can only look around, see the planet I live on, the trees, leaves, plants, animals, the way our planet is tilted on its axis and it relation to the sun, the moon for tides the "fact" that no life has benn discovered on ANY other planet. I see my sons who were formed inside my wife their respective births their growing. I see how my body heals itself then suddenly begins to stop this process and I break down. I visit all kinds of places and marvel at their beauty.

I cannot prove to you this was created. I cannot prove it happened when a rocke banged into another and a lightning struck a perfect spot in a waters slime that had a protien in it at the right moment and caused a cell to appear then grow to eventually become an ancestor of mine.

I cannot prove anything unless you want to learn what I learned. Most do not want to. I know I do not want to hear what a person calling me names knows. So why would either of us bother.


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