Re: Unconditional surrender, The Isreal solution
 

The hard answer was posted in the first statement of this thread. No total peace without Iran and Syria giving up totally. If anyone can't understand that then study the history of war and civilization. SOS different day. Maybe today they call it a religious war compared to a Nazi war or a Shintoist[Japan] war. Guess what? SOS different day.

The latest politically correct answer/term used is the so called "Turkey Solution". After Turkey got bombed by a radical they mobilized their army at the Syrian border. Then they demanded the ass of the mastermind who was living in Damascus in luxury.. Guess what? Turkey got all they asked for. The guy was soon dead meat. The Israel Herbozolla sic bs is the SOS. Get Syria to blink and they'll dump aiding Herbozolla.

Re: Unconditional surrender, The Isreal solution
 

That won't work. As I've pointed out before, 6 million Israeli's will not tell 200 million plus mideast muslims what to do. Further, the 6 million Israeli's need to think about, or rethink about, the 1 billion muslims world wide they're pissing off. If you think they aren't or won't be a factor, think again.

SO you don't think 6 million Jews with nukes, cannot wipe out 200 million Muslims? You are wrong.

Besides you will only have to wipe out a few million to get the attention of the rest.

Until recently the use of nukes was strictly off limits, even in a discussion. Now its being discussed by proximate people. The end is near.

Re: Unconditional surrender, The Isreal solution
 

that's pretty lame. I hope you never become politically active or are given any substantial power.

The places with no radical Muslims?

It seems that force is the only thing that the radical Muslims understand. One cannot tolerate obsessed murders next door very long. Soon, it is either you or them. Better if it is them.

could it be that you are the problem? invading and murdering their people in their own homeland in the name of "war on terror" BS.... have you ever thought about that?

Of course not. Only an idiot would think that.

When they were a significant cultural and economic influence in Spain everyone was happy. Then some broad got talked into an inquisition because she was broke and had to stay in power somehow. Then a radical became an opinion leader maybe a generation or two later, then another a few hundred yrs later, then an up-dated creation happened around mid 1800's, then WW1 trashed what was left of the Ottoman Empire's influence, then the cold war US strategic policies etc kept them avoiding USSR influence as much as possible.[i think time-lines are correct?]

The remnants of these once some times helpful warlords need their asses reamed. They started this War Against Western Civilization. Their enablers in Congress, anti-war far left, etc should watch France become more fa kuped every yr because of a weak political policy of dealing with the issue internally etc etc.

Their nation state supporters may ultimately need a beating by the US if we get whacked for a few thousand people... again.

"murdering their people "
-------- in the late 1980's - early 1990's NYC had about 2,200 murders/yr happening. When Giuliani came on he didn't seek rational conversation with the crooks and gangsters. The NYPD performed remarkably when given a green light. Today it's maybe around 400.


Rudy for President in 2008.

fintstone is not a thinker, he's loyal to government, for government, by government; his loyalty to America and Americans is non-existent.

Certainly not. It is a war between expansionist Israel and those that own the lands Israel covets.

Would you "understand" if it was done to you?

No, the muslims did not start a War Against Western Civilization; the British and French did that, with the US government joining in in the early 20th century. The only place the muslims have invaded europe is in the Serbian province of Kosovo; and George W. Bush is aiding and abetting that invasion. If you want to stop a muslim invasion, armed the Serbs and they will take care of the problem in a few weeks.

They know what to do.

The remaining solution is for the western nations to leave the mideast alone. Buy their oil if they want to sell, otherwise, get the hell out.

Leave em alone like we were doing on 9/10/01? Is that what you mean Pat?

Since the US government hasn't left the mideast alone for nearly 80 years, you're question has no value or merit.

Are you joking, or do you really have no understanding of even recent history??

One does not have to be an AQ supporter to know the reasons behind OBL's attack on us on 9/11. Wow. Is that what people believe where you live? That we were conducting no business, military or otherwise, in the ME that their people objected to prior to 9/11?

There is a HUGE expanse between being a "terrorist sympathizer", :rolleyes: and a believer of neocon lies. Somewhere in that great expanse is a crazy thing called "truth" and "reality", I know that these are acquired tastes but once you become familiar with it you will settle for nothing less. Asinine propaganda will roll off of you like water on a duck. Give it a try. Back away from the FOX News. :cool:

Denis,

For chuckles, I was just trying to get Pat go on about how we should appease the ME by evacuating the whole ME, 100% so that they will quit "disliking" us. I for one do not think that the radical islamists would suddenly change their attitude or actions towards western society simply by pulling out.

This simplistic attitude of leave them alone and they will leave us alone is flawed. The radical islamists want us dead whether we leave them alone or not.

PS: I rarely watch Fox news :)

They were wrong. In Islam, an infidel were the Pagens. Jews and Christians are to be protected.

And further, it's not even a "tenet."

And they are doing a great job of it. Very supportive and protective. Kinda like a mother hen........


Somehow I think most of them missed that part of Islam.......

:eek: :D

Now that is funny!