Unconditional surrender, The Isreal solution
 

Only unconditional surrender, by radical Muslims is the answer. The same kind of unconditional surrender obtained by the allies at the end of wwII. Say its not possible, wtf, its been proven to be possible by both Germany and Japan. Unconditional surrender is what Israel needs to set as its goal.

Israel needs to kill every stinking one of the zelots that are out to get them, fathers, mothers, children, every stinking one. Then and only then will they get the message and peace will follow.

Over the top? What else has resulted in lasting peace?

No...they must show restraint...and let Hezbolla live to attack again.

Germany and Japan were contained in small borders. They were it. There was not much in the way of Germans and Japanese outside of those borders..

Well, considering the radical ones want to kill them and all of us Western infidels as well, you have a point. I tend to think the more probable outcome is continued fighting there until the world ends.....whenever that is....

Be sure and book mark this post so you can all tell me I'm wrong when we all learn to get along and there is peace in the Middle East.:p

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CUT THE HEAD OFF OF THE SERPENT! hezbolla must go and the rest of the zealots!

Unfortunately, as long as the same people control the government in Iran, I don't think we will make much progress. So, if a nice revolution occurred in Iran or if Israel decided to take care of that little situation for us, that might be nice.

Wasn't Jimmy Carter responsible for Iran??

Give him another peace prize.

There will never be peace in the world. There will always be someone fighting another one, until the end of time.

That's human nature.

But it can be reduced with a little root-cause analysis and addressing the issue. I do not believe bombs will fix this particular issue like it did in relatively isolated Germany or Japan.

Enough bombs will ALWAYS fix any issue.

Bomb the entire world?

And I have to be honest, snowman, it would not work with me. If someone killed my mother with a bomb.....

Would it work with you if you were on the receiving end?

ya kill'n... thats the answer:rolleyes:

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Agreed. Now you have to know where to put them(wherever problems with radical Muslims occur). Here's the beginning of a list:

Most of the countries in the Middle East
Many countries in Africa
A few European countries starting with France
Several locations in North and South America

Where are places that have NOT had problems? Maybe we should pay attention and try to learn something.

I think cool_chick is right. This is different because they are too spread out to get them all. Hence they will always regroup, sow more discontent and hatred, reap the new members for a new Jihad attempt and start again.

Can we start at your house? :rolleyes:

Pretty infantile solution from a supposedly seasoned old man.

Not if I find your house first.

But on a more serious note, Germany and Japan surrendered, unconditionally. Why? Because they were threatened with total annihilation, by a very credible enemy.

Again

Germany and Japan were contained in small borders. They were it. There was not much in the way of Germans and Japanese outside of those borders..

To be honest, I don't even view this as a religious war. I view religion and fear as a means to recruit, much like nationalism and fear (fight for "American freedom") are methods for countries to recruit soldiers.

no.

Their hostilities are borne of occupation and territorial disputes.

Re: Unconditional surrender, The Isreal solution
 

The hard answer was posted in the first statement of this thread. No total peace without Iran and Syria giving up totally. If anyone can't understand that then study the history of war and civilization. SOS different day. Maybe today they call it a religious war compared to a Nazi war or a Shintoist[Japan] war. Guess what? SOS different day.

The latest politically correct answer/term used is the so called "Turkey Solution". After Turkey got bombed by a radical they mobilized their army at the Syrian border. Then they demanded the ass of the mastermind who was living in Damascus in luxury.. Guess what? Turkey got all they asked for. The guy was soon dead meat. The Israel Herbozolla sic bs is the SOS. Get Syria to blink and they'll dump aiding Herbozolla.

Re: Unconditional surrender, The Isreal solution
 

That won't work. As I've pointed out before, 6 million Israeli's will not tell 200 million plus mideast muslims what to do. Further, the 6 million Israeli's need to think about, or rethink about, the 1 billion muslims world wide they're pissing off. If you think they aren't or won't be a factor, think again.

SO you don't think 6 million Jews with nukes, cannot wipe out 200 million Muslims? You are wrong.

Besides you will only have to wipe out a few million to get the attention of the rest.

Until recently the use of nukes was strictly off limits, even in a discussion. Now its being discussed by proximate people. The end is near.

Re: Unconditional surrender, The Isreal solution
 

that's pretty lame. I hope you never become politically active or are given any substantial power.

The places with no radical Muslims?

It seems that force is the only thing that the radical Muslims understand. One cannot tolerate obsessed murders next door very long. Soon, it is either you or them. Better if it is them.

could it be that you are the problem? invading and murdering their people in their own homeland in the name of "war on terror" BS.... have you ever thought about that?

Of course not. Only an idiot would think that.

When they were a significant cultural and economic influence in Spain everyone was happy. Then some broad got talked into an inquisition because she was broke and had to stay in power somehow. Then a radical became an opinion leader maybe a generation or two later, then another a few hundred yrs later, then an up-dated creation happened around mid 1800's, then WW1 trashed what was left of the Ottoman Empire's influence, then the cold war US strategic policies etc kept them avoiding USSR influence as much as possible.[i think time-lines are correct?]

The remnants of these once some times helpful warlords need their asses reamed. They started this War Against Western Civilization. Their enablers in Congress, anti-war far left, etc should watch France become more fa kuped every yr because of a weak political policy of dealing with the issue internally etc etc.

Their nation state supporters may ultimately need a beating by the US if we get whacked for a few thousand people... again.

"murdering their people "
-------- in the late 1980's - early 1990's NYC had about 2,200 murders/yr happening. When Giuliani came on he didn't seek rational conversation with the crooks and gangsters. The NYPD performed remarkably when given a green light. Today it's maybe around 400.


Rudy for President in 2008.

fintstone is not a thinker, he's loyal to government, for government, by government; his loyalty to America and Americans is non-existent.

Certainly not. It is a war between expansionist Israel and those that own the lands Israel covets.

Would you "understand" if it was done to you?

No, the muslims did not start a War Against Western Civilization; the British and French did that, with the US government joining in in the early 20th century. The only place the muslims have invaded europe is in the Serbian province of Kosovo; and George W. Bush is aiding and abetting that invasion. If you want to stop a muslim invasion, armed the Serbs and they will take care of the problem in a few weeks.

They know what to do.

The remaining solution is for the western nations to leave the mideast alone. Buy their oil if they want to sell, otherwise, get the hell out.

Leave em alone like we were doing on 9/10/01? Is that what you mean Pat?

Since the US government hasn't left the mideast alone for nearly 80 years, you're question has no value or merit.

Are you joking, or do you really have no understanding of even recent history??

One does not have to be an AQ supporter to know the reasons behind OBL's attack on us on 9/11. Wow. Is that what people believe where you live? That we were conducting no business, military or otherwise, in the ME that their people objected to prior to 9/11?

There is a HUGE expanse between being a "terrorist sympathizer", :rolleyes: and a believer of neocon lies. Somewhere in that great expanse is a crazy thing called "truth" and "reality", I know that these are acquired tastes but once you become familiar with it you will settle for nothing less. Asinine propaganda will roll off of you like water on a duck. Give it a try. Back away from the FOX News. :cool:

Denis,

For chuckles, I was just trying to get Pat go on about how we should appease the ME by evacuating the whole ME, 100% so that they will quit "disliking" us. I for one do not think that the radical islamists would suddenly change their attitude or actions towards western society simply by pulling out.

This simplistic attitude of leave them alone and they will leave us alone is flawed. The radical islamists want us dead whether we leave them alone or not.

PS: I rarely watch Fox news :)

They were wrong. In Islam, an infidel were the Pagens. Jews and Christians are to be protected.

And further, it's not even a "tenet."

And they are doing a great job of it. Very supportive and protective. Kinda like a mother hen........


Somehow I think most of them missed that part of Islam.......

:eek: :D

Now that is funny!