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snowman 07-31-2006 06:45 PM

Unconditional surrender, The Isreal solution
 
Only unconditional surrender, by radical Muslims is the answer. The same kind of unconditional surrender obtained by the allies at the end of wwII. Say its not possible, wtf, its been proven to be possible by both Germany and Japan. Unconditional surrender is what Israel needs to set as its goal.

Israel needs to kill every stinking one of the zelots that are out to get them, fathers, mothers, children, every stinking one. Then and only then will they get the message and peace will follow.

Over the top? What else has resulted in lasting peace?

legion 07-31-2006 06:52 PM

No...they must show restraint...and let Hezbolla live to attack again.

cool_chick 07-31-2006 06:53 PM

Germany and Japan were contained in small borders. They were it. There was not much in the way of Germans and Japanese outside of those borders..

Rob Channell 07-31-2006 06:55 PM

Well, considering the radical ones want to kill them and all of us Western infidels as well, you have a point. I tend to think the more probable outcome is continued fighting there until the world ends.....whenever that is....

Be sure and book mark this post so you can all tell me I'm wrong when we all learn to get along and there is peace in the Middle East.:p

charleskieffner 07-31-2006 07:06 PM

i will be the cockroach that survives and when its all over i will marry christie brinkley and we will start the world all over!

CUT THE HEAD OFF OF THE SERPENT! hezbolla must go and the rest of the zealots!

Nathans_Dad 07-31-2006 07:08 PM

Unfortunately, as long as the same people control the government in Iran, I don't think we will make much progress. So, if a nice revolution occurred in Iran or if Israel decided to take care of that little situation for us, that might be nice.

snowman 07-31-2006 07:27 PM

Wasn't Jimmy Carter responsible for Iran??

Give him another peace prize.

cool_chick 07-31-2006 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rob Channell
Well, considering the radical ones want to kill them and all of us Western infidels as well, you have a point. I tend to think the more probable outcome is continued fighting there until the world ends.....whenever that is....

Be sure and book mark this post so you can all tell me I'm wrong when we all learn to get along and there is peace in the Middle East.:p

There will never be peace in the world. There will always be someone fighting another one, until the end of time.

That's human nature.

But it can be reduced with a little root-cause analysis and addressing the issue. I do not believe bombs will fix this particular issue like it did in relatively isolated Germany or Japan.

snowman 07-31-2006 07:47 PM

Enough bombs will ALWAYS fix any issue.

cool_chick 07-31-2006 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by snowman
Enough bombs will ALWAYS fix any issue.
Bomb the entire world?

And I have to be honest, snowman, it would not work with me. If someone killed my mother with a bomb.....

Would it work with you if you were on the receiving end?

M.D. Holloway 07-31-2006 07:58 PM

ya kill'n... thats the answer:rolleyes:

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snowman 07-31-2006 08:48 PM

If you kill them first, they cannot kill you. EOS

charleskieffner 08-01-2006 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RoninLB
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Rob Channell 08-01-2006 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by snowman
Enough bombs will ALWAYS fix any issue.
Agreed. Now you have to know where to put them(wherever problems with radical Muslims occur). Here's the beginning of a list:

Most of the countries in the Middle East
Many countries in Africa
A few European countries starting with France
Several locations in North and South America

Where are places that have NOT had problems? Maybe we should pay attention and try to learn something.

I think cool_chick is right. This is different because they are too spread out to get them all. Hence they will always regroup, sow more discontent and hatred, reap the new members for a new Jihad attempt and start again.

VaSteve 08-01-2006 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by snowman
Enough bombs will ALWAYS fix any issue.
Can we start at your house? :rolleyes:

Pretty infantile solution from a supposedly seasoned old man.

snowman 08-01-2006 02:30 PM

Not if I find your house first.

But on a more serious note, Germany and Japan surrendered, unconditionally. Why? Because they were threatened with total annihilation, by a very credible enemy.

cool_chick 08-01-2006 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by snowman
Not if I find your house first.

But on a more serious note, Germany and Japan surrendered, unconditionally. Why? Because they were threatened with total annihilation, by a very credible enemy.

Again

Germany and Japan were contained in small borders. They were it. There was not much in the way of Germans and Japanese outside of those borders..

cool_chick 08-01-2006 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SoCal911SC


I don't think WWII examples have much application to what is a religious war.

To be honest, I don't even view this as a religious war. I view religion and fear as a means to recruit, much like nationalism and fear (fight for "American freedom") are methods for countries to recruit soldiers.

cool_chick 08-01-2006 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SoCal911SC
You don't view what is going on right now between Israel and Lebanon as a religious war?!?
no.

Their hostilities are borne of occupation and territorial disputes.


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