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			"That's "Sergeat Pain" to you recruit!  You said "you" do I look like a god damn female sheep (ewe) to you recruit?  Maybe you want to eff me you sick little ba$tard!  Drop and give me bends and motherfu(kers until I give you permission to stop, you degenerate, pathetic piece of an excuse for dog crap! Lord!  what they expect me to work with these days"
		 
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			That was pretty good Hugh.  I was coaching my son's football team last year.  I had the habit of saying "eyeballs" when I wanted them to watch what I was demonstrating and "ears" when I wanted them to listen.  After a couple of weeks,  a couple guys on the team asked where I got those terms.  I did not even realize I was using them! Semper Fi, David 
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			We are blessed to have excellent men and women willing and able to lay down their life to defend the rights of others.  The key is to be able to "make the other poor bastard" lay down his first. Freedom comes at a price. Are you willing to pay it? Semper Fi 
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|  08-09-2006, 08:20 PM | 
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			Better get a bucket.
		 
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|  08-09-2006, 09:26 PM | 
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			No disrespect to the Marines and the fine marksman in the article but I sincerely hope you blokes don't really think this is "good news" as far as Iraq sitcho is concerned. That would be comical - even by the standards around here. 
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			A little bit more of the same: A BRITISH sniper waging war on the Taliban is so deadly he has earned a chilling nickname — The Man Who Never Misses. The unerring Army sharpshooter has killed 39 rebel fighters single-handedly. His marksmanship is so lethal that rumours have spread like wildfire through insurgents’ camps, causing panic and confusion. The sniper — who The Sun is not naming to prevent him becoming a target himself — is a member of elite 3 Para. Described by sources as “the best shot in the Army” he is responsible for over five per cent of the 700 insurgents killed by Paras since British forces returned to Afghanistan. He is based in the wild Helmand province, where our troops launched a massive assault on the Taliban this week. A source said yesterday: “This sniper is truly something else — a silent assassin. “In the deadly terrain of southern Afghanistan, where guerilla warfare rules, he has been invaluable. The rumours are sweeping enemy camps that he is the man who never misses.” The sniper’s actual toll is probably higher than 39 but the Taliban’s tendency to reclaim bodies makes deaths difficult to confirm. His lethal L96A1 rifle has a range of 1,000 yards and is fitted with electronic sights and laser range-finders. He works with a partner called a spotter, who locates the target and helps judge wind speed and distance so the bullet travels accurately. Each day the pair risk their lives away from fellow Paras, taking up covert positions and often lying hidden for as long as ten hours at a time. Once the shot has been fired they need nerves of steel to stay concealed while Taliban rebels wielding rocket-propelled grenades and machine-guns desperately try to hunt them down. The Ministry of Defence would not discuss the crackshot for security reasons. But he is regarded as one of the most successful British snipers since World War Two. Earlier this year it was revealed that the Army is creating an elite force of almost 700 snipers, with all 38 infantry battalions required to have an 18-man platoon of sharpshooters by 2008. It will be the first time formal sniper platoons will have existed since the end of the First World War in 1918. The decision follows the success of British and US sniper teams who have killed dozens of terrorists on recent operations in Afghanistan and Iraq. In 2003 Royal Marines sniper Corporal Matt Hughes killed an Iraqi gunman from 900 yards with a “wonder shot” in which he aimed 56ft to the left and 35ft high to allow for wind. The bullet’s trajectory was calculated by his spotter after he studied the movement of dust in the breeze. And Irish Guards Sergeant Eddie Waring lay on a roof for hours to take out three Iraqis who were laying mines in Basra. credit and story: http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006350757,00.html 
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			a sniper or countersniper instills as much if not more FEAR than a nuclear bomb at a substantial cost savings! practice practice practice
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|  08-10-2006, 06:32 AM | 
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			Snipers have come a long way in history. There was a time that they were not readily accepted, even by the men they fought beside. It wasn't considered "Honorable" to lay in wait and take out a target without exposing oneself. Wasn't it as recent as Viet Nam that we didn't even have snipers? Times have changed indeed.
		 
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			The History Channel had an episode focusing on snipers. IIRC after WW2 the military questioned the need for snipers in what they called "a modern military". It was our involvement in Nam that they re-evaluated  the use of snipers(not only as an individual fighting resource but also from the psychological terror standpoint). The military had to rebuild it's recruitment and training programs almost from scratch. Every branch of our military has it's "elite" fighting force. Snipers NO DOUBT are amongst these elite.
		 
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			snipers are ELITE! try judging distance, wind drift ,concealment, temp., opposing enemy fire, ingress,egress(kinda important), which way target will be moving in the next few seconds, being detected after shot placed, mines booby traps, etc. try shooting a 1000yds with a .308 scoped and find out how good you are not! it is a true art! and it is amazing to watch a palma 1000yd match let alone shoot in a four man team. try shooting a 1000 yds w/only iron sights!!!!!!!!!! if your really really really good....................camp perry! | ||
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| Semper drive! | Quote: 
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			When I was in Boot Camp at Camp Pendleton, I our platoon met Hathcock at Edson Range.  He was there doing some instruction for the PMI's there.  He was a very modest and quiet man as I recall. One shot, one kill, David 
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