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rcm 08-10-2006 07:59 AM

For Air travel, we need to concentrate on finding bombs and not worry about the rest. No hijacker is going to take over an airliner with a Glock or a Samurai sword, let alone a box cutter or cuticle scissors. [/B][/QUOTE]

I wonder if they have stopped the fluids based on toe guys seperately carrying chemicals that mixed together would kill alot of people?

red-beard 08-10-2006 08:15 AM

That is exactly it. Except it would be 3, two with the liquids and one with the electronic detonator disguised as something electronic.

I did a quickie search this morning on Google and 2 things came up: Some sort of liquid rocket fuel (not sure how easy THAT would be to make) and a de-classified Pentagon report (you have to pay to see it) on just these kinds of explosive. Supposedly the liquids are both clear.

wludavid 08-10-2006 08:16 AM

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Originally posted by red-beard
I think pretty soon we're gonna have to strip before getting on the planes, and fly naked.
Have you ever read Heinlein's "The Puppetmasters"?

red-beard 08-10-2006 08:32 AM

Well, it would make it easier for women to breast feed on the airplanes.

At least the last one I saw (In first class, overseas flight) she kept a blanket over her while doing it. In France,we walked past a few women with babies attached. Can't they just get a big shirt and shove the kid up under it?

jyl 08-10-2006 08:52 AM

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Originally posted by red-beard
Just how is a train better? Now you have to monitor how many miles of track in addition to the station?
A train can be bombed more easily than an airplane, but bombing a train wouldn't kill as many people as bombing an airplane (the train car where the bomb is placed plus some more from the derailment, versus the entire airplane).

(I know there have been some high death tolls in recent terrorist attacks on trains, but those have been attacks on multiple trains, the deaths per bomb are fairly modest.)

1967 R50/2 08-10-2006 09:44 AM

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Originally posted by rcm


I wonder if they have stopped the fluids based on toe guys seperately carrying chemicals that mixed together would kill alot of people?

I think they need to ban diet coke and mentos.

red-beard 08-10-2006 10:03 AM

I think we should institute a 24 hour bean burrito and boiled cabbage ban prior to boarding.

artplumber 08-10-2006 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by red-beard
I think we should institute a 24 hour bean burrito and boiled cabbage ban prior to boarding.
+1:(

FWIW China began screening fluids a long time ago because of this possibility. They smell every liquid (obviously not as good as a dog) and have you take a drink.

Porsche-O-Phile 08-10-2006 01:23 PM

Conspiracy on the part of all those airport-based convenience stores that charge six bucks for a four-pack of asprin, three bucks for a bottle of watter or ten bucks for a 3-pack of vibro-ribbed rubbers.

CONSPIRACY I SAY!!!

rick-l 08-10-2006 01:29 PM

The CNN article said they were going to use a sport drink for a bomb? Like Gatorade?? How do you make that blow up?

red-beard 08-10-2006 01:34 PM

If I told you, they would come for me...

singpilot 08-10-2006 01:47 PM

Rick. Turn on any Fox news affiliate. It's there.

charleskieffner 08-10-2006 02:19 PM

igniter.............flash from a camera. ABC NEWS 5 min ago

RickM 08-10-2006 02:38 PM

I read they were going to use some type of peroxide based liquids and electronic equipment, such as a camera flash, to detonate.

Amail 08-10-2006 02:40 PM

My son is flying from CA to VA on the red-eye Saturday night, and is bringing with him 4 frozen tri-tip roasts. Apparently it's a difficult cut of meat to find on the east coast.

Wonder what kind of grief he'll get going thru security with vacuum packed frozen meat?

stevepaa 08-10-2006 02:51 PM

I don't think it will get on the plane as hand carry. Have him pack it and check it as baggage. It's colder down below anyhow.

on-ramp 08-10-2006 03:24 PM

the terrorists have won.

so were at red alert and water is banned on flights.
:rolleyes:

if you had a bomb that required H20 to explode, wouldn't you just order some from the flight attendant? DUH!

in other news, the terrorist attack on Iraq by the Bush administration was not foiled.
2500 US Soldiers and 50,000+ Iraqis dead.
US tax payers defrauded in the Billions.
stay tuned for more...

onewhippedpuppy 08-10-2006 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by on-ramp
the terrorists have won.

so were at red alert and water is banned on flights.
:rolleyes:

if you had a bomb that required H20 to explode, wouldn't you just order some from the flight attendant? DUH!

in other news, the terrorist attack on Iraq by the Bush administration was not foiled.
2500 US Soldiers and 50,000+ Iraqis dead.
US tax payers defrauded in the Billions.
stay tuned for more...

Blah, blah, blah, shut up. At least save it for the political poo throwing threads. They were smuggling on liquids that LOOKED like water, that when combined and ignited make a bomb. Is it really that damn big of a deal? Take a drink before your flight, long flights provide drinks anway. I'm thirsty vs 11 planes explode over the ocean, boy it's a tough choice.

Anybody watch MythBusters last night? Pretty good timing on the topic.

cegerer 08-10-2006 04:34 PM

"The Isrealis conduct an extensive interview one on one with every passenger. You are asked about your travelling companion (your answers are compared to theirs), your recent local itenerary (will be verified somehow), your reaction to 'stimulus questions' will be observed, your appearance and body language will be rated, your passport will be examined for previous travel, and the sum total of all of this is given a score. This is also done for aircrew. If you are on EL AL, it doesn't take much to get booted. There are 3 or 4 booted from every flight. Every flight. If you are from certain countries, or have visited certain countries, or even look like you are from certain countries, you are booted.

Hard to argue with success. Yes, profiling works. Not PC, but it works. Imagine it? It's coming."


I don't think our enemies could possibly make it any easier for us to spot them, could they? All the terrorists are Muslims and look like Muslims. So let's have 2 lines for the security check: 1 for Muslim-looking people and one for everybody else. All Muslims will go thru the Isreali procedure and .... oh wait, that would be discrimination. :rolleyes: We wouldn't want to hurt anybody's feelings!

stomachmonkey 08-10-2006 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by cegerer
[I] So let's have 2 lines for the security check: 1 for Muslim-looking people and one for everybody else. All Muslims will go thru the Isreali procedure and .... oh wait, that would be discrimination. :rolleyes: We wouldn't want to hurt anybody's feelings!
That's actually not a bad idea. But why stop there, if we have seperate restaurants there'd be less danger of them blowing us up. And seperate bathrooms, drinking fountains. Maybe make them all sit in the back of the plane so you can keep a better eye on them. Maybe the lighter skined ones should be required to sew a symbol of their religion on their clothing. We could also tatoo a barcode or number on them to keep track of them.

And to really show em who's boss and instill the fear of god the rest of us can all wear bedsheets and pillow cases.

:rolleyes:


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