Do liberals have no shame

[fintstone]

Do liberals have no shame? I cannot imagine trying to politicize a 9-11 memorial with an inscription like this:



Sept. 11 inscriptions spark outrage
By Beth Lucas, Tribune
September 23, 2006
Inscriptions etched into Arizona’s Sept. 11 monument — meant to inspire and capture the horror of the terrorist attacks — sparked the beginnings of a political blog battle this week.

The monument was unveiled at Phoenix’s Wesley Bolin Memorial Plaza near the state Capitol on the fifth anniversary of the attacks.

A timeline and record of key events and quotes are etched onto a giant angled ring reflected by sunlight in what designers said was intended to capture how Arizona and the nation responded to the attacks, and to remember the strong emotions.

But this week, blog visitors have said they’re shocked at some of the inscriptions, which they describe as political statements against the Bush administration and its war on terror.

One inscription states, “You don’t win battles of terrorism with more battles.” Another: “Congress questions why CIA and FBI didn’t prevent attacks.” And another reads, “Erroneous US air strike kills 46 Uruzgan civilians,” referring to a wedding reportedly hit by mistake in Afghanistan.

“It’s a worldview that is critical of America, and in many cases cheapens 9/11,” said Greg Patterson, a lobbyist and consultant who operates the EspressoPundit blog, where he and his readers have been critical of the memorial. “It is bent on attacking the Bush administration’s take on the war, at the expense of the memory of 9/11.”

Rep. Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, said he was stunned to learn of the inscriptions. “To politicize it to me is absolutely outrageous, instead of a memorial to remember those who have sacrificed their lives,” he said.

Tempe resident Donna Bird, whose husband Gary was killed in the attack, was among the 30-member Arizona 9/11 Memorial Commission created by former Gov. Jane Hull in 2002.

She said all the inscriptions were found factual by an Arizona State University history professor. She added that she wouldn’t have helped design the memorial, which names her husband, if it were political.

[BGCarrera32]

Liberals cannot discern the difference between a terrorist attack and "collateral damage".

[nostatic]

Originally posted by fintstone

Rep. Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, said he was stunned to learn of the inscriptions. “To politicize it to me is absolutely outrageous, instead of a memorial to remember those who have sacrificed their lives,” he said.

the irony is astounding...

Not only do liberals have no shame, they are stupid and don't bathe regularly. They also love child pornography, abortion, and gay sex...usually all at the same time. The world is messed up entirely and exclusively becuase of liberals. Thank god I saw the light and recently became a conservative. I sleep well now knowing that "my side" is always right (pun intended), and has never done anything wrong in the world, and is mistake-free. We are victims of the left and the liberal media...

Now to find a juicy Coulter piece to cut and paste...

[fintstone]

Originally posted by BGCarrera32
Liberals cannot discern the difference between a terrorist attack and "collateral damage".

Or between a terrorist attack and fabricated enemy propaganda. They are desperate to tie the war (and 9-11) to Vietnam...to further demonize the President.
Another inscription:

What a hijack! I wonder if people who contributed to this will be able to get a refund of their money when they find out this memorial became nothing but a Democratic billboard.

[fintstone]

Originally posted by nostatic
the irony is astounding...

Not only do liberals have no shame, they are stupid and don't bathe regularly. They also love child pornography, abortion, and gay sex...usually all at the same time. The world is messed up entirely and exclusively becuase of liberals. ...

That all may well be true....but this is sinking even lower than normal, don't you agree? Or do you support this type "memorial" that could just as easily been dedicated to the terrorists as the US citizens that died that day?

[fintstone]

No shame! What a thing to put on a memorial to those that died at the hands of terrorists.

[Moneyguy1]

Tell me, fint, old boy, that the administration AND the conservative pundits have NOT been politicizing 9/11 for their own ends? Fear, terror, evil-doers, We are the only ones that can protect you, Without Iraq, we would be fighting the Islamofacists on Main Street USA instead of "over there"....

Not that I agree with many of the inscriptions either,, but to have the uber conservatives act all indignant and SO rightious is the acme of hubris and irony. Seldom have I ever seen a person so consumed with hate and anger, ready to blame everyone else for the ills of the Country.

And what, precisely, is wrong with the listing of the four dates? Are you saying, for example, that 12/07/41 was NOT an even that lead us into war?

You have become predictable, boring, and repetitive. i

[fintstone]

Originally posted by Moneyguy1
Tell me, fint, old boy, that the administration AND the conservative pundits have NOT been politicizing 9/11 for their own ends? Fear, terror, evil-doers, We are the only ones that can protect you, Without Iraq, we would be fighting the Islamofacists on Main Street USA instead of "over there"....

They are doing no more politicizing than any U.S. presidency has done to fight a war. Do you expect our government/President to root for the enemy too? Sheesh...you guys are doing a good enough job yourselves.

Originally posted by Moneyguy1
..Not that I agree with many of the inscriptions either,, but to have the uber conservatives act all indignant and SO rightious is the acme of hubris and irony. Seldom have I ever seen a person so consumed with hate and anger, ready to blame everyone else for the ills of the Country...

Of course I am indignant that our own citizens choose to disrespect the folks killed in the 9/11 attack as well as their anti-american slogans posted on a memorial. You should be as well. I have never seen one so quick to attempt to divert blame...from those whom blame is due.

[fintstone]

No Shame!

[nostatic]

Originally posted by fintstone
No Shame!

Hear Hear!

Stained Blue Dress! Stained Blue Dress! Stained Blue Dress!

[fintstone]

Do all liberals think 9/11 memorials are funny?

[RoninLB]

the anti-war crowd has been fighting for WTC memorial political take over since the beginning. If it wasn't for victims family they would have fully succeeded as many NY'ers really hate Bush & Co.
It ain't over yet.

[Tobra]

Not to jump on any conservative bandwagons or anything, but ask yourself a question.

If someone chiseled a slogan onto the Vietnam Memorial that read, "Victims of American Imperialism!" right next to your father's name Or inscribed onto the USS Arizona Memorial in Hawaii, "You can't resolve a war with more bombs" or "FDR killed those boys below you as sure as you are standing here"

How would you feel, particularly if you lost a father or other relative at Pearl Harbor?

Just because conservatives politicize this, does not make this any less wrong

[RoninLB]

Originally posted by Tobra

Just because conservatives politicize this, does not make this any less wrong

good thinking but the NYC Columbia, NYU, etc progressives started it as they figure they have local power, which they do. The WTC site building is big time $ and politics.

Larry Silverstein who holds the Tower leases has been getting screwed all along according to big time NYC real estate players that I get 2nd hand info from. They are trying to bankrupt him.

[fintstone]

Originally posted by Tobra
Not to jump on any conservative bandwagons or anything, but ask yourself a question.

If someone chiseled a slogan onto the Vietnam Memorial that read, "Victims of American Imperialism!" right next to your father's name Or inscribed onto the USS Arizona Memorial in Hawaii, "You can't resolve a war with more bombs" or "FDR killed those boys below you as sure as you are standing here"

How would you feel, particularly if you lost a father or other relative at Pearl Harbor?

Just because conservatives politicize this, does not make this any less wrong

It would be almost as bad as defacing the tribute to John Kerry, and his efforts to help them win the war, in Vietnam's war museum...would be to the old Viet Cong black pajama crowd.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by fintstone
Do liberals have no shame?

You've exhibited no shame, no morals, and no ethics on this forum so far, fint. That you would pose this rhetorical questions only serves to demonstrate the baldfacedness of your lying.

[RoninLB]

The WTC lib hacks are trying to steal the memorial from victims murdered and their families and friends.. Including every fire department in the US.

btw.. not every lib is a hack but the WTC libs are.

[Moneyguy1]

All four of the dates correspond to events that are generally thought to have led to the US being involved in a war: The Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonkin and of course, the WTC. What is most interesting is the outrage to quotes that will provide insight decades from now concerning the mindset of the Country in the days and months following 9/11. Included in the inscriptions are headlines, all of which have been verified. As such, they are not "partisan", but simply quoted as is. Some of the inscriptions may sound today inflammatory, but may look different in the retrospect offered by time. It is necessary for history to have as varied sources as possible if onjectivity is to be maintained.

Incidentially, one inscription is from a Gary Bird and was originally included in the East Valley newspaper article, but evidentially left out of the initial posting of this thread: His last words to his wife: "I'll be home for dinner Tuesday night".

www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=74855

Selective editing?

Try refraining from the "knee jerk" mentality occasionally and do some research.

[fintstone]

Originally posted by Moneyguy1
...Incidentially, one inscription is from a Gary Bird and was originally included in the East Valley newspaper article, but evidentially left out of the initial posting of this thread: His last words to his wife: "I'll be home for dinner Tuesday night".

www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=74855

Selective editing?

Try refraining from the "knee jerk" mentality occasionally and do some research.

The quote from "Gary Bird" was not in the version of the article you linked to either...must be "selective editing" on your part.

What research are you talking about? What the dates represent?...One can only assume that a reasonably educated person would not have to "research" them or anything in this very simple article.

Shame.

[Moneyguy1]

It's there, fint...It is there. Where do you think I found it? Someone else want to look it up and report back?

Come on..tell the truth for once instead of playing "I have to win at all costs". You see no historical significance in headlines of the day? Have you SEEN the memorial? Have you read ALL the inscriptions or once again just being selective?

Sheer nonsense and partisanship on your part friend, friend.

Perhaps with a little less imagination and a bit more logic you might just sway a few "centrists" more to your side.