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mystery engine
Friend of a friend took me into this guys workshop; the owner wasn't there. In it was this engine. Anyone know what it is?
 It's a flathead V-8 with a distributor set up for twin plugs. I didn't see the second set of spark plug holes. Thanks, Sherwood |
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10-03-2006, 10:05 AM
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Might just be my eyes or this monitor, but it seems to be missing 1 exhaust port according to those headers...
Maybe someone just bolted alot of parts together for a conversation piece? Inquiring minds want to know...
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Looks like an old 239 Ford Flathead. Note the hand crank screw on the crank pully?
 This pic is of a known 239 Ford Flathead. Only real difference that I can see is of the distributor.
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10-03-2006, 10:34 AM
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Surely a Ford flathead, but the distributor and headers have got to be mock-ups for body/chassis fitment
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10-03-2006, 10:36 AM
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More 239's. Top one is supercharged with Offy heads, bottom one just dual carbs.
 
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10-03-2006, 10:51 AM
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Back in the day when guys were running these on fuel they would machine an extra center exhaust port out of the top of the block to aid flow.
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10-03-2006, 12:25 PM
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The distributor a mystery to me...but look UNDER the flat "head"...shape looks a lot like the ARDUN heads of old...
Sidney Allard commissioned Zora Duntov (yes, the 'Vette guy) and a guy named Arlen Ness (if memory serves) to make them for his Allards...the ARDUN head converted the flathead to a OHV engine.
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10-03-2006, 10:32 PM
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not an ARDUN conversion, the Ardun's heads are tall so they can have valves in them.
The "ROADRUNNER & WILEY COYOTE "cartoon once had a bit in it that the coyote drove a dragster with an ARDUN in it it's a 21 stud flat motor, and he's spent some cash on it. My dad has a few flatheads, I was brought home from the hospital that I was born in 1966 in a Flathead powered 1940 coupe
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10-04-2006, 07:28 AM
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Then, what's up with that distributor?
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10-04-2006, 10:18 AM
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heres an ARDUN flathead
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10-04-2006, 10:23 AM
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10-04-2006, 10:48 AM
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Yeah, if you think Porsche heads can get expensive, try to buy a pair of Ardun heads...
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10-04-2006, 11:11 AM
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After all that it might make 230HP.................if the rods and crank hold up. I do dig them but........... just no rpms OR power and fragile
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10-04-2006, 01:07 PM
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Wish I had a photo of the flathead block to demonstrate,but the valves are up the top on the valley side and the exhaust ports run across [or down] thru the block. The center two ports are siamesed,There are only three exhaust pipe outlets. Big problem with overheating if you thrashed
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10-04-2006, 03:07 PM
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Also came in 21 stud or 24 stud heads. Joe's pics show one of each.
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10-04-2006, 03:12 PM
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Does any car here provide a clue? (same garage)
 Sherwood Last edited by 911pcars; 10-04-2006 at 03:47 PM.. |
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10-04-2006, 03:16 PM
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Yeah, the first one up top is a Ford hot rod ,so the motor would fit that,
or the 39[?] Ford on the floor--the middle one is a Lotus 6,and the other one ,of course is a Porsche 356.[Do I win a prize?] |
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10-04-2006, 03:27 PM
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"Do I win a prize?"
Yeah. You get to tell us what's up with the 16 plug-wire distributor.  Sherwood |
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