Doing the Terrorists work!

[Rearden]

Originally posted by Moneyguy1
By having these videos, is this not an opportunity for our side to develop better tactics to protect themselves? Its like having a "mole" feeding you information, isn't it?

"Now we know what you are doing. We know what to expect. Propare yourself for retaliation."

I agree. But you don't need CNN to broadcast something in order for the military to see it.

[Moneyguy1]

I think what bothers me about this is similar to the actions of the government during the second world war. There was a great debate about showing dead bodies on the "Movietone" news shorts. It was considered that it would be demoralizing to the public to see dead American bodies sloshing around in the surf of some Pacific atoll. Finally, they permitted such scenes to be shown. The result was a solidification of resolve among the civilians, not the predicted feeling of "this is far too expensive in American lives, we should quit and come home".

The more the public knows, the more they will understand the seriousness of the situation. Not to mention that showing these tapes is graphic proof of the depth of the problem and runs contrary to the concept of "we are winning" at this point in time.

[Rearden]

I agree with a lot of what you say, Moneyguy.
The scenes of dead bodies in the surf were not purposefully edited Japanese reels.
I don't know what media you are watching or who you speak to, but very few people think "we are winning". Even Fox News doesn't report that. Instead, it's "we must win".
If we retreat now and leave this nascient Iraqi government to fend for itself, we will surely lose.
That's my position, anyhoo.

[Moneyguy1]

I agree with the urgency of the mission. Yes, you are correct. Even FOX has recently been backing off of their total support for the way things are going. For that, I am grateful since they were misleading their loyal viewers. A more realistic approach must be found, and I am not qualified to even make a suggestion of hos it should be done. It will take cooperation between both major parties, disparate voices and the experts. It is time to close ranks and stop the internicene sniping.

I tend to follow a number of "informational" sources, fully realizing that none of them are totally unbiased. Print, broadcast, all of them have to be filtered througn a sieve of common sense in order to understand the reality of the situation.

[john70t]

What is there to loose, though?
Similar to Yugoslavia (an Israel if you stretch it), there was an oppresive/defensive entrenched secular minority in command of a multitude of culturally-diverse(Islamic) areas that were agressively seeking independance and growing in population and strength.
The minority was militarly destroyed by the US, and civil war along ethnic/religeous lines began.

This senario was told time and again by some of Bush's advisors who stressed the need for a quick resolution and turnover-and they got transfered.
So the Iraqi populous is stuck between the choice of two gangs fighting for power, one of which is supported from several neighboring countries. The only option to stop THOSE, is to defeat them as well.
What benefit to US interests is there, except to mire us in foreign debt/deficit to those who are our real competitors?

Is the average Iraqi really a moderate that whould accept a neutral government? I think not at this point.
There is a leadership technique where the boss gets the employees to stop bickering by making them all pissed/afraid of him/her.

(funny, after my last post my internet connection got cut off.)

[Rodeo]

Originally posted by john70t
1.Bush is using American troops to put the Islamo-fundamentalist Shiites in power.
2.They are the terrorists that attacked us.
3.You are an avid Bush supporter.

That sums it up perfectly.

GWB has us fighting FOR the enemy, and all the lapdogs can do is turn on their fellow Americans. Shameful.