Doing the Terrorists work!

red-beard · red-beard's Garage

CNN, giving the Terrorists a voice, to the world

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U.S. troops in snipers' line of fire

Almost 2,800 Americans have been killed so far in Iraq and one of the most dangerous insurgent opponents is the sniper. CNN has obtained graphic video from the Islamic Army of Iraq, one of the most active insurgent organizations in Iraq, showing its sniper teams targeting U.S. troops. The Islamist Army says it wants talks with the United States and some Islamist Internet postings call for a P.R. campaign aimed at influencing the American public. The video is disturbing to watch but CNN believes the story, shocking as it is, needs to be told.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/10/19/iraq.sniper.video/index.html

Yep, CNN, tool of the terrorists

Joeaksa · 10-19-2006, 06:26 AM

CNN, a good reason to watch Fox...

widebody911 · widebody911's Garage

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Originally posted by red-beard
CNN, giving the Terrorists a voice, to the world
Yep, CNN, tool of the terrorists

You guys had no problems with the various videos and stories circulating about American snipers and aircraft gun footage. For instance, the gunsight footage from an AH64 that took out several farmers in a field: http://youtube.com/watch?v=DMNT4BERF8M - you loved it!

The Pentagon has been spoon-feeding propaganda about the war to the news outlets both here and to their puppet media abroad, and you had no problem with that, either. With more realisitic coverage, maybe those who are in lock-step with Bush will start to wake up and realize what a clusterfock this war really is.

Superman · 10-19-2006, 06:43 AM

Thom, you're talking to folks who are just fine with the proliferation of propaganda that will cause everyone to vigorously support this "president" and his Iraq military campaign. And they are just fine with the suppression of information to the contrary. Support for this war is a bigger priority than truth.

red-beard · red-beard's Garage

OK, so you 2 are OK with helping the Enemy? I want you on record on this. Are you OK with CNN helping an Enemy of the United States?

Superman · 10-19-2006, 07:01 AM

No. I am not. I just want information about how well the war is going, and how poorly it is going. Balance. Unlike you.

john70t · 10-19-2006, 07:04 AM

1.Bush is using American troops to put the Islamo-fundamentalist Shiites in power.
2.They are the terrorists that attacked us.
3.You are an avid Bush supporter.

Rearden · 10-19-2006, 07:17 AM

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some Islamist Internet postings call for a P.R. campaign aimed at influencing the American public.

So the Islamists want us *out* of the country? I've read dozens of times here that our presence in Iraq is the Islamists' best recruiting tool. What's up with that? Are they no longer accepting new members?

mtelliott · 10-19-2006, 07:32 AM

Now I understand how 30% of the population still believe everything is going well.

red-beard · red-beard's Garage

Supe, the war ended 3 and 1/2 years ago. This is an OCCUPATION. It is going about as well as I would have expected. Do I think we're making mistakes? Sure. I thinik we need to Balkanize the region and put the religous groups into geographic zones. Is this a "perfect" solution? Nope. But it sure seems better than any alternative.

But, the terrorists tactics are this: Kill our will to fight. Make us leave. They do not need to "win", they need to not lose. CNN is going right along with them.

Jim Richards · 10-19-2006, 07:54 AM

I wonder if they'd like some hot tea. And some nice bisquits. I might as well take out the trash while they're busy planting their IED thingies. I just love to be of help.

widebody911 · widebody911's Garage

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Originally posted by red-beard
But, the terrorists tactics are this: Kill our will to fight. Make us leave. They do not need to "win", they need to not lose. CNN is going right along with them.

If you were living under an [Iraqi|Russian|Elbonian] occupation army, would you do any different? Or would you bust out the rose petals and lay them before your occupiers? You seem to be offended that the Iraqis are not laying flowers at the feet of the Americans like Rumsfeld promised they would.

on-ramp · 10-19-2006, 08:06 AM

put an Iraq government in place that is an ally to the US and then get all the US troops out.

Violence will then surely go down.

mtelliott · 10-19-2006, 08:08 AM

Does the U.S. have any more ally's? Is there someone we haven't pissed off yet?

on-ramp · 10-19-2006, 08:12 AM

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Originally posted by widebody911
If you were living under an [Iraqi|Russian|Elbonian] occupation army, would you do any different? Or would you bust out the rose petals and lay them before your occupiers? You seem to be offended that the Iraqis are not laying flowers at the feet of the Americans like Rumsfeld promised they would.

he's typical arrogant American.

thinks he knows what's best for the rest of the world and if they don't comply, they are "terrorists".

Especially after invading their country over lies and a campaign of fears leading up to the war.
but Bush and Congress dont care. none of their children are fighting and dying in Iraq.

Rearden · 10-19-2006, 08:23 AM

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Originally posted by widebody911
If you were living under an [Iraqi|Russian|Elbonian] occupation army, would you do any different? Or would you bust out the rose petals and lay them before your occupiers? You seem to be offended that the Iraqis are not laying flowers at the feet of the Americans like Rumsfeld promised they would.

Iraqis aren't living under an occupation army. Iraq has its own government now. Unfortunately, that government is too weak/corrupt/incompetent to govern (which includes security). Perhaps they need more time to get their shiite together, or perhaps it's a lost cause. Stay tuned.

Moneyguy1 · 10-19-2006, 08:43 AM

So, by televising a different view than FOX, could someone please tell me how we conclude that somehow this is aiding the enemy? It would seem this is an opportunity to "get inside their heads" and find more effective ways to blunt their efforts.

I do not understand this mindset that anyone who disagrees with the administration is somehow disloyal and traitorous. Could someone calmly, clearly, succinctly, and most of all, logically explain why opposing points of view are so dangerous?

Why are we constantly bombarded with elements of fear and mistrust? Why is it so necessary to demean one another's perspective of events?

Rearden · 10-19-2006, 08:47 AM

Moneyguy,
The other side takes the time to film and produce propaganda videos, so members and recruits can see how successful they are at sniping Americans (and, as they claim, to get in the heads of Americans and try to cause the American populace to lose its will). It's an advertisement, if you will. When Western media decides to broadcast these advertisements for free, one can argue that they are aiding the enemy.

Tim Hancock · 10-19-2006, 08:57 AM

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Originally posted by Rearden
Moneyguy,
The other side takes the time to film and produce propaganda videos, so members and recruits can see how successful they are at sniping Americans (and, as they claim, to get in the heads of Americans and try to cause the American populace to lose its will). It's an advertisement, if you will. When Western media decides to broadcast these advertisements for free, one can argue that they are aiding the enemy.

Common sense has no place here Rearden!

Moneyguy1 · 10-19-2006, 09:00 AM

By having these videos, is this not an opportunity for our side to develop better tactics to protect themselves? Its like having a "mole" feeding you information, isn't it?

"Now we know what you are doing. We know what to expect. Propare yourself for retaliation."