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Friggen Romanian Hackers

I expect that the hotel Internet I'm using has a password stealing function. Ebay has alerted me twice while I've been here that my password was compromised and that I should change it.

So, I'm on my second password reset in a couple of days, when I haven't had a problem like this in the multiple years I've used ebay.

I had Norton scan the harddisk offline, but it didn't find anything. I reset the password after connecting my work computer and activating the VPN.

Any other thoughts here?

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Old 10-29-2006, 07:49 AM
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do you see the padlock symbol in your browser when you logon ??

ebay login is secure, but if they substitute the ebay.com page for one of their own ( and that's always possible on a network you don't know), then you could have been logging on to a spoof ebay, and you could have given them your authentication details ...


there is also the second option, and this is the most likely scenario : perhaps your ebay account was not compromised at all, and you just got a fake mail to trigger you into clicking a link in the mail to change the password... and that link then lured you to a spoof website...and instead of changing , you just gave your original one to the hackers,

i've seen the latter on several occasions with amazon...
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Old 10-29-2006, 08:02 AM
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Not spoof e-mails. The internal ebay message system has duplicate e-mails.

I reset the password the first time through my phone's browser. Oh and I did log in to ebay the day before the first change, because I had an item I was bidding on. And I also logged in yesterday with the new password.

It seems they attempted to change my password, but didn't have any of the secondary info needed to make the change. I do not like this hotel and I don't think I'll be staying here again.
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Old 10-29-2006, 08:17 AM
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Oh, and the answer is...no the lock is not showing up on the page.
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Old 10-29-2006, 08:20 AM
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Well, the signon page does, but not the initial ebay page.

The initial page is a

while the signon page is
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still , ebay login is secure, i don't think the average hotel reception desk clerk can packetsniff and decode encrypted packets...

did you contact ebay and ask them what basis they have for these suspicions??
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Old 10-29-2006, 08:23 AM
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the ebay page is http , that's fine
but the page where you put your password down has to be HTTPS
and have the little lock in the browswer..
if you click it , you should get information about the encryption used, issued by verisign
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Old 10-29-2006, 08:25 AM
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One time I went to Canada and had a good time without any problems. That's the only time i was in another country and didn't get ripped off or have someone try to rip me off.
Basically I told my company that I will go to canada but no where else, period and if they didn't like it they could fire me. They basically said OK, if they fired everyone who refused to travel abroad they would be all by themselves. It aint worth it.
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One time I went to Canada and had a good time without any problems. That's the only time i was in another country and didn't get ripped off or have someone try to rip me off.
Sammy , you wouldn't happen to travel like this guy , now would ya ??




i've travelled to plenty places, and honestly , never been ripped off, not even on one of the many booze fueled stampedes in strange and exiting places...

i just take my basic precautions(no fanny packs, camera's , blingbling), and i try not to look like a tourist

EDIT, forgot, i'm also quite good with languages... none of that "just speak slower and a lot louder"
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Use trusted dns servers, tunnel everything thru a proxy over ssh or a VPN, and don't use windows.
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Quote:
Originally posted by svandamme
Sammy , you wouldn't happen to travel like this guy , now would ya ??




i've travelled to plenty places, and honestly , never been ripped off, not even on one of the many booze fueled stampedes in strange and exiting places...

i just take my basic precautions(no fanny packs, camera's , blingbling), and i try not to look like a tourist

EDIT, forgot, i'm also quite good with languages... none of that "just speak slower and a lot louder"
Its funny that the only two people I've ever heard talk like flaming xenophobes were a couple of arch-conservatives on Pelican. I've never had anyone in any foreign country 'try to rip me off.'

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