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Moneyguy1 10-31-2006 07:29 AM

Observation on bias
 
Recent posts have made me think (and it hurts, to quote Yosemite Sam).....

Why are so many people convinced that their view is absolutely correct and anyone who does not believe the same way are somehow flawed? Could this aspect of humanity be its ultimate downfall?

legion 10-31-2006 07:43 AM

You are dead wrong.

We are all open to discussion and the adoption of new ideas. ;)

IROC 10-31-2006 07:51 AM

Re: Observation on bias
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Moneyguy1
Why are so many people convinced that their view is absolutely correct and anyone who does not believe the same way are somehow flawed? Could this aspect of humanity be its ultimate downfall?
I think this is one of the most fascinating things about people and one of the things that draws me to PPOT. Some people can believe so strongly in something that others totally discount. Why is that? They both can't be right. Extremely interesting. I think that's why religious threads are so prevalent. Both sides can't be right, yet both sides are convinced that they are correct. I love it.

Mike

stevepaa 10-31-2006 07:52 AM

actually I think it is just the fringe that think they have ownership on the right ideas

Unfortunately some of them become president.

lendaddy 10-31-2006 07:56 AM

Ask Rodeo:D

Jim Richards 10-31-2006 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lendaddy
Ask Rodeo:D
...and his alter-ego lendaddy. ;)

You two guys are like the Bell brothers, Ding and Dong. :D :D :D

Moneyguy1 10-31-2006 08:06 AM

+1 (at least)

dhoward 10-31-2006 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jim Richards
...and his alter-ego lendaddy. ;)

You two guys are like the Bell brothers, Ding and Dong. :D :D :D

Is somebody at the door?

Rodeo 10-31-2006 08:34 AM

I am absolutely convinced that GWB has been bad for my country.

Under Bob's analysis, that apparently makes me "biased."

I am not a radical person, but when you oppose a radical administration, it makes you appear so, since you constantly disagree with their radical positions.

lendaddy 10-31-2006 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rodeo
I am absolutely convinced that GWB has been bad for my country.

Under Bob's analysis, that apparently makes me "biased."

I am not a radical person, but when you oppose a radical administration, it makes you appear so, since you constantly disagree with their radical positions.

Yes, you are viewed here as the voice of reason.

ding er...dong...whatever:D

Rodeo 10-31-2006 08:51 AM

These are unreasonable times daddy. In historical context, I am pretty much dead center.

Rodeo 10-31-2006 08:53 AM

I know on this board, for instance, that opposing warrantless spying on Americans is considered "far left," but I also know that when the country returns to normal, that position will be viewed as a prefectly normal, even conservative viewpoint.

lendaddy 10-31-2006 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rodeo
These are unreasonable times daddy. In historical context, I am pretty much dead center.
Oh yes, absolutely. :D

Dong....

lendaddy 10-31-2006 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rodeo
I know on this board, for instance, that opposing warrantless spying on Americans is considered "far left," but I also know that when the country returns to normal, that position will be viewed as a perfectly normal, even conservative viewpoint.
That's not at all the argument and you know it. The question is one of wartime surveillance of enemy calls to/from our country. This is not even remotely close to the tipping point you paint it to be.

Level-headed people understand this, and your irrational response is what makes you extreme. The fact that you don't even accurately summarize the dispute makes you extreme..... your amazingly generous helpings of unwarranted drama and hyperbole make you extreme....

dong

Rodeo 10-31-2006 08:59 AM

The issue is warrantless spying on Americans, exactly as I have framed it.

lendaddy 10-31-2006 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rodeo
The issue is warrantless spying on Americans, exactly as I have framed it.
Thanks for making my point.

The way you describe it a person must worry about all their calls being listened in on. That's not the case at all, not even close...but that's the way you present it for effect. You don't even try to have honest debate.

I would also note that your statement above leads the reader to believe that the target of the spying is the American citizen, which is not the case at all. Misleading is the name of the game.

cool_chick 10-31-2006 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lendaddy
That's not at all the argument and you know it. The question is one of wartime surveillance of enemy calls to/from our country. This is not even remotely close to the tipping point you paint it to be.

Level-headed people understand this, and your irrational response is what makes you extreme. The fact that you don't even accurately summarize the dispute makes you extreme..... your amazingly generous helpings of unwarranted drama and hyperbole make you extreme....

dong

That's such bull. The WHOLE ISSUE is WARRANTLESS and you KNOW IT......

Jim Richards 10-31-2006 09:05 AM

Ding, Dong? You fellas gonna be needin' a room? ;)

lendaddy 10-31-2006 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cool_chick
That's such bull. The WHOLE ISSUE is WARRANTLESS and you KNOW IT......
I think you posted in the wrong thread. Were you arguing with someone about warrants? A mod can move your post.

lendaddy 10-31-2006 09:11 AM

OK, coolie, I know I'm going to regret this......but, should initating a call to or receiving a call from an overseas terrorist be grounds for a warrant?

cool_chick 10-31-2006 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lendaddy
I think you posted in the wrong thread. Were you arguing with someone about warrants? A mod can move your post.
Belongs right in response to your quote. Apparently your memory of 5 minutes ago is *****

Recap for the obvious Alzheimers dude, Lendaddy.

Rodeo:
I know on this board, for instance, that opposing warrantless spying on Americans is considered "far left," but I also know that when the country returns to normal, that position will be viewed as a prefectly normal, even conservative viewpoint.

Lendaddy:
That's not at all the argument and you know it. The question is one of wartime surveillance of enemy calls to/from our country. This is not even remotely close to the tipping point you paint it to be.

Level-headed people understand this, and your irrational response is what makes you extreme. The fact that you don't even accurately summarize the dispute makes you extreme..... your amazingly generous helpings of unwarranted drama and hyperbole make you extreme....


Cool_Chick
That's such bull. The WHOLE ISSUE is WARRANTLESS and you KNOW IT......

Rodeo 10-31-2006 09:14 AM

Don't bother CC ... when you argue with a radical, it makes you look like a radical yourself.

Ask me how I know :)

lendaddy 10-31-2006 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lendaddy
OK, coolie, I know I'm going to regret this......but, should initating a call to or receiving a call from an overseas terrorist be grounds for a warrant?
I'll quote myself for you coolie. What say you?

lendaddy 10-31-2006 09:21 AM

Anyway, my point is that this could be discussed in a rational way...but when Rodeo misrepresents what we're even talking about what's the point? Back in an hour or so....

Rodeo 10-31-2006 09:24 AM

I'm staying in my corner for this one.

It took me 5,000 posts, but I have learned something :)

scottmandue 10-31-2006 09:41 AM

I am at one with my duality. :p

lendaddy 10-31-2006 10:41 AM

Coolio? No answer to my question?

Wait, I got one...

Is the visable presence of a Wild Turkey Bottle in the passenger seat grounds for an assumed warrant to search a car?

dhoward 10-31-2006 10:46 AM

If it means an all-out search for the hopefully now-nekkid female passenger, then yes.

Rodeo 10-31-2006 10:49 AM

WILD TURKEY SUCKS.

How's that for bias? :)

jorian 10-31-2006 10:51 AM

"I know on this board, for instance, that opposing warrantless spying on Americans is considered "far left," but I also know that when the country returns to normal, that position will be viewed as a prefectly normal, even conservative viewpoint."

Or opposition of the suspension of, lets say, habeus corpus. Color me radical.

lendaddy 10-31-2006 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dhoward
If it means an all-out search for the hopefully now-nekkid female passenger, then yes.
Agreed:D


But how about a warrantless search of my person just because I crossed the yellow line?

Chicky?

lendaddy 10-31-2006 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jorian
"I know on this board, for instance, that opposing warrantless spying on Americans is considered "far left," but I also know that when the country returns to normal, that position will be viewed as a prefectly normal, even conservative viewpoint."

Or opposition of the suspension of, lets say, habeus corpus. Color me radical.

We'll just color you Canadian, hows that?:D

Tim Hancock 10-31-2006 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rodeo
WILD TURKEY SUCKS.

How's that for bias? :)

Back to your corner Rodeo!

scottmandue 10-31-2006 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lendaddy
Wait, I got one...

Is the visible presence of a Wild Turkey Bottle in the passenger seat grounds for an assumed warrant to search a car?

Only if it's an open bottle... ha ha... got you on that one... neener neener. :p

jorian 10-31-2006 11:25 AM

My 911 is biased toward the rear. As long as she's hot.

Rodeo 10-31-2006 11:26 AM

This thread went to ***** without my participation ... let that be a lesson to all of you :)

lendaddy 10-31-2006 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by scottmandue
Only if it's an open bottle... ha ha... got you on that one... neener neener. :p
True, and only if the guy on the other end of the phone is a terrorist.:D

Jim Richards 10-31-2006 11:37 AM

Hot rear? Who? No, don't even think of mentioning snowman! :eek:

livi 10-31-2006 11:39 AM

Re: Observation on bias
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Moneyguy1
Recent posts have made me think (and it hurts, to quote Yosemite Sam).....

Why are so many people convinced that their view is absolutely correct and anyone who does not believe the same way are somehow flawed? Could this aspect of humanity be its ultimate downfall?

I know what you mean and Pelican is just a small mirror of society. Narrow mindedness (is that the correct term?) is among the most intolerable traits in my book. Itīs a stone age strategy that very much limits the possibilities for further development in any given situation.

scottmandue 10-31-2006 11:41 AM

Re: Re: Observation on bias
 
Quote:

Originally posted by livi
I know what you mean and Pelican is just a small mirror of society. Narrow mindedness (is that the correct term?) is among the most intolerable traits in my book. Itīs a stone age strategy that very much limits the possibilities for further development in any given situation.
Are you being intolerant of my intolerance?


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