The Only Thing to Use is Fear Itself - Page 3

Moneyguy1 · 11-03-2006, 07:22 AM

It deserves repeating:

1. Read post, preferably twice

2. Compose response

3. Submit response

4. Do not transpose #2 and #3

Too much "transposing" going on around here.

Rodeo · 11-03-2006, 07:37 AM

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Originally posted by Tim Hancock
I think the issue is too complex to just claim that Bush relinquished control. I am sure many less than perfect things happen over there. Monday morning quarterbacking every news story that comes out of Iraq is pretty stupid IMO.

It is kinda crazy to form an opinion on whether the Iraqi PM should be able to stop an American military operation. Especially if the opinion would tend to make Bush war policy look incredibly stupid and counterproductive.

So let's just say "it's complicated" and move on to attacking Kerry.

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Well....
I don't give your opinions a second thought.

They are plainly just Bush bashing... Bush bashing.. Bush bashing.....
repeat... repeat... repeat....

Or attacking Rodeo, that works almost as well. If I express an opinion contrary to your hero, the appropriate response is to scream "Bush bashing" a hundred times, then call me names. Then you say "it's complicated," and move on to Kerry bashing.

The only difference is I'm talking about American lives. You're talking politics.

If you are incapable of forming an opinion on whether Maliki should be able to call an end to what our soldiers called a "vital military operation," that is a sad commentary on you I'm afraid.

Tim Hancock · 11-03-2006, 07:42 AM

10 points for that reach around Rodeo!

I knew better than to attempt reason with you.

Rodeo · 11-03-2006, 07:45 AM

Is this really what you consider "reasoning?"

No wonder we can't communicate.

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Originally posted by Tim Hancock
They are plainly just Bush bashing... Bush bashing.. Bush bashing.....
repeat... repeat... repeat....
Somehow I picture you as the lawyer on Boston legal that walks around all day with his hands glued to his pants and repeatedly blurting out odd sounds. I think he has OCD also.

If you want to try my style of "reasoning," tell me your opinion of Maliki stopping American Military operations.

That would be a good start.

lendaddy · 11-03-2006, 07:52 AM

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Originally posted by Tim Hancock
10 points for that reach around Rodeo!

I knew better than to attempt reason with you.

Indeed I wonder as well.

There are thousands of potential scenarios for what happened in that situation. Promises made from one group to another, tests of loyalty, small scale diplomacy, etc... all to possibly achieve the desired goal through different/perhaps more effective means. But Rodeo doesn't care, all he sees is a chance to bash Bush even though such a decision would have come from the Generals on the ground who might have a good reason for their actions.

It's more fun and just as productive to treat him as the jester he is. Dance monkey boy dance

Rodeo · 11-03-2006, 08:00 AM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
There are thousands of potential scenarios for what happened in that situation. Promises made from one group to another, tests of loyalty, small scale diplomacy, etc... all to possibly achieve the desired goal through different/perhaps more effective means.

Of those thousands, which have you heard the Bush administration use?

Yep, that's the one. The same one lackys like you use -- silence. Followed by attacks. Followed by diversions.

Down to about 26% of the country with you. But keep fighting for your hero. He's what's important.

Tim Hancock · 11-03-2006, 08:00 AM

How is this for ya Rodeo?

At some point decisions will need to be made by the Iraqis, as time passes I hope more and more decisions are made by the Iraqi govt, thus allowing us to EVENTUALLY back out of Iraq. I feel much more comfortable knowing only a partial backout was made by our troops as opposed to a full immediate withdrawal as some lefties seem to desire.
This whole Sadr City news story of the week will be forgotten about by next week by all but maybe you.

WTF exactly is the point you are trying to make? Oh yeah....Bush somehow has turned our ENTIRE military over to the terrorists therefore he sucks.

BTW, Bush is not my "hero" but in general, I will back a republican (who shares MOST of my views) over a Kerry (your hero?) or Hillary Clinton 100% of the time.

Now give me something else to laugh about and respond to (it is Friday after all)

Moneyguy1 · 11-03-2006, 08:03 AM

This is getting interesting. Seems as if our resident opponents have hit a true impasse. Entertaining to say the least. Seems as if the phrase "Bush Bashing" takes precidence over a rational response!!

I am sure that certain "liberals" do bash the prez, but "conservatives" seem to have a limited long term memory about "president bashing" that occured between 1992 and 2000. Get over it guys, it is all part of the game, repeated over and over between the "ins" and the "outs".

Personally, I will never bash the president on a personal basis (I have never met the man), but I will say that his stands on many issues are simplistic, not well thought out, and potentially dangerous if continued very far into the future.

So there. Do I get painted with the same "Bush Bashing" brush?

Rodeo · 11-03-2006, 08:09 AM

Well, Bob, i guess they have a point. After all, Bush didn't turn over control of the ENTIRE U.S. Military to the terrorists, only one "vital" operation in a war zone.

I don't know what I was thinking, seeing anything wrong with that. I mean, the terrorists are not in charge of the Pentagon yet, right?

What a sorry bunch of sycophants.

Jim Richards · 11-03-2006, 08:11 AM

Geez Rodeo, next you're gonna complain about Tora Bora.

Tim Hancock · 11-03-2006, 08:14 AM

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Originally posted by Moneyguy1

So there. Do I get painted with the same "Bush Bashing" brush?

Nope, Rodeo is in a league all his own. Even Jim Richards, who I often disagree with politically is making comments on Rodeo's downward spiraling lunacy.

I have not forgot about Clinton, as I still have a picture of him on my dartboard in my shop

(no Jim, it is not a "butt dart" board

)

Rodeo · 11-03-2006, 08:16 AM

Hey, there could be "thousands" of reasons to turn over combat operations to terrorists.

Another Bush strategy so brilliant that mortals cannot begin to comprehend.

Jim Richards · 11-03-2006, 08:18 AM

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Originally posted by Tim Hancock
Nope, Rodeo is in a league all his own. Even Jim Richards, who I often disagree with politically is making comments on Rodeo's downward spiraling lunacy.

I have not forgot about Clinton, as I still have a picture of him on my dartboard in my shop (no Jim, it is not a "butt dart" board )

LOL! Buttdarts.

nostatic · nostatic's Garage

i think that word is banned now in Colorado

Jim Richards · 08:33 AM

Speaking of Clinton, one day I was going to one of our many museums here in DC. As I was walking along, I spotted Bubba (still Prez) and Chelsea out for a walk, of course, with the Sec. Serv. guys everywhere. I was pretty close to them, and they stopped and looked at some sculpture, and chatted like father/daughter. No press around. Just a father/daughter outing. Really struck me how much like any nice father he seemed. Anyway, I just wanted to mention that, and that I still have two years to see something comparable from the current WH occupants. Peace.

Moneyguy1 · 11-03-2006, 08:32 AM

Well, I suppose there will be those after GWB is long gone that will also have dartboards.

Politics seems to be the lowest emotional common denominator.

Tim Hancock · 11-03-2006, 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by Jim Richards
Speaking of Clinton, one day I was going to one of our many museums here in DC. As I was walking along, I spotted Bubba (still Prez) and Chelsea out for a walk, of course, with the Sec. Serv. guys everywhere. I was pretty close to them, and they stopped and looked at some sculpture, and chatted like father/daughter. No press around. Just a father/daughter outing. Really struck me how much like any nice father he seemed. Anyway, I just wanted to mention that, and that I still have two years to see something comparable from the current WH occupants. Peace.

Yeah Jim, but tell me about how Clinton lied, he was stupid, he dogded Vietnam, he smoked dope, he .......

Sorry, just wanted to see how it felt to give a Rodeo type response

Jim Richards · 11-03-2006, 08:41 AM

Whew! For a minute I thought he highjacked your account.

Clinton was a crappy husband, but I'll always respect him as a father.

I think the fear angle has been the B2 admin's only tool for achieving foreign and domestic policy goals and electoral success. I hope it fails them this time. Time for bi-partisianship.

Tim Hancock · 11-03-2006, 08:41 AM

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Originally posted by Moneyguy1
Well, I suppose there will be those after GWB is long gone that will also have dartboards.

Politics seems to be the lowest emotional common denominator.

I truly despised Clinton like any good republican

, but I feel pretty confident that I would not have come across as a whining broken record declaring Clinton a buffoon in response to EVERY political topic that might have come up here on PPOT.

lendaddy · 11-03-2006, 08:41 AM

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Originally posted by Rodeo

Another Bush strategy so brilliant that mortals cannot begin to comprehend.

Possible I guess, but your not understanding it goes without saying