Not Voting and Proud

[Dan in Pasadena]

Originally posted by Tobra
You are the sole member of my ignore list, but I will respond to this.

GOOD, you should not vote

I love it. Too funny.....and accurate!

[m21sniper]

Originally posted by jorian
"If every single homeless person or unemployed welfare couch turd or crack mama was forced to vote the democtats would will everything by a landslide."

So the average American is a single, unemployed, couch riding, crackhead?

No, but virtually every one of them is a socialist....errr....democrat.

[pwd72s]

Years ago a guy told me he didn't vote. I asked why.
"The last time I voted, it was for Nixon. I figured if I couldn't do any better than that, I should quit."

[Dan in Pasadena]

Originally posted by HardDrive
I take a very dim view of those that refuse to vote.

We have few obligations as citizens, is it really so much to ask that you vote?

Very stupid, arrogant post Pat.

HardDrive, I couldn't agree more. My only comment is that voting isn't an obligation, its a privilege. One that people in other countries routinely die for.

I don't care if your vote agrees with mine or not (Okay, I DO care, but that's not the point). Exercise your right to vote (not you HardDrive) or SHUT THE HELL UP with the things that are happening in YOUR government that you don't like. Its simple: Make an effort to be part of the solution or Keep being part of the problem!

(I am sure I'll get reamed for voicing that last statement...and of course FastPat will tell us how its not His government, meanwhile back here in the 21st century... )

[lendaddy]

I firmly support Pat in his decision to not vote.

[pwd72s]

I don't vote. I'm convinced that Oregon's vote by mail process is fraudulant...meaning, yes, I do believe elections here are rigged.
Why should I lend legitimacy to fraud by casing a vote? I don't play 3 card Monte on street corners, either...

[Tervuren]

Pat - consider your state ammendments. Take a look, I'd for sure vote on those bud. Allowing the senate to take a thirty day vacation from making laws? Dissallowing confistication of property for economic gain... Go vote pat on the state ammendments if you have time left.

[Dan in Pasadena]

Originally posted by pwd72s
I don't vote. I'm convinced that Oregon's vote by mail process is fraudulant...meaning, yes, I do believe elections here are rigged.
Why should I lend legitimacy to fraud by casing a vote? I don't play 3 card Monte on street corners, either...

I know NOTHING about Oregon's voting laws, but can't you still get your butt up and GO TO the voting booth? Do you HAVE to vote by mail? If not then why would you give up your right to vote?

[fastpat]

Originally posted by jorian
In some European countries its ILLEGAL not to vote. should be the same in N America as well.

Apathy will eventually kill a democracy.

We can only hope. Democracy is mob rule.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by m21sniper
Why should i join the military and sit in a foxhole for four years if there is no foxhole of which i approve?

...

So other nitwits can dispense bad advice on Porsche discussion forums i guess. Or maybe it was for the 1st rate pay that i did it...

I'd expect you did it because you were either a victim of government military slavery, or if not, then you were a US government mercenary.

Neither is related to voting or not voting.

[m21sniper]

Originally posted by fastpat
I'd expect you did it because you were either a victim of government military slavery, or if not, then you were a US government mercenary.

Neither is related to voting or not voting.

LOL!!!!!!!!

Actually it was a deep seeded hatred for Communism, and their pesky tendency to point thermonuclear missiles at us by the thousands.

Were you off the breast milk yet back in those days to fully appreciate the national mood fella?

[fastpat]

Originally posted by m21sniper
LOL!!!!!!!!

Actually it was a deep seeded hatred for Communism, and their pesky tendency to point thermonuclear missiles at us by the thousands.

Were you off the breast milk yet back in those days to fully appreciate the national mood fella?

Ignoring your childish response.

My military service began in 1967; yours....?

I guess the obvious question your response also begs; did your hatred produce results?

[m21sniper]

Are you saying i was wrong to hate the godless communist heathens?

And since you've alluded to your service, please characterize it at this time.

I'll even go first:

Corporal, US Army Infantry. 11B, 11C secondary, B4 ASI(Sniper), 4th Bn, 31st Infantry(Mechanized). ETS'd in 1990...just after i got back from Panama.

Your turn General.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by m21sniper
Are you saying i was wrong to hate the godless communist heathens?

And since you've alluded to your service, please characterize it at this time.

Began in 1967, ended (active reserve) in 2003.

You didn't answer the question, and I don't care what you did while you were serving, at least in this thread.

You asserted that you had some sort of insight based on your service being some time ago. Let's hear why.

[cowtown]

Originally posted by fastpat
We can only hope. Democracy is mob rule.

Thank you for hoping for the downfall of my country.

Thank you for hoping that the world's best system of government, the best of an imperfect set of systems, will fail.

I so respect you for your firm stand against my family, my community, and my country, Pat.

[pwd72s]

Originally posted by Dan in Pasadena
I know NOTHING about Oregon's voting laws, but can't you still get your butt up and GO TO the voting booth? Do you HAVE to vote by mail? If not then why would you give up your right to vote?

When an election is rigged Dan, all votes become worthless, because the results have been predetermined. I had to go through more paperwork to get my name removed from the voter's list than it is for an illegal alien to register. It's my firm belief that Oregon elections are rigged. And yes, there are no voting booths in Oregon. All ballots are mailed out. The sucker, er "voter" then mails them back in...or, drops them off at various collection points. As long as Oregon operates this way, and the power structure sees no reason to change, I'll never vote again.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by cowtown
Thank you for hoping for the downfall of my country.

America was never intended, except by the Hamiltonians, socialists, and communists, to be a Democracy. The degree to which Democracy has made inroads in American government is the degree to which the country has been destroyed by its' government.

Thank you for hoping that the world's best system of government, the best of an imperfect set of systems, will fail.

The US government has never been the "best" of all possible governments; any notion that it is or was is based on ignorance, or arrogance.

I so respect you for your firm stand against my family, my community, and my country, Pat.

America is my country, and apparently not yours. Go back to your country, or stay in it if you're there now.

[gaijindabe]

Originally posted by fastpat
America was never intended, except by the Hamiltonians, socialists, and communists, to be a Democracy. The degree to which Democracy has made inroads in American government is the degree to which the country has been destroyed by its' government.

O.K. Pat - learn us a little. What was it supposed to be and when did it go wrong?

(I mean after Hamilton got off the boat.)

[Dan in Pasadena]

Originally posted by pwd72s
When an election is rigged Dan, all votes become worthless, because the results have been predetermined. I had to go through more paperwork to get my name removed from the voter's list than it is for an illegal alien to register. It's my firm belief that Oregon elections are rigged. And yes, there are no voting booths in Oregon. All ballots are mailed out. The sucker, er "voter" then mails them back in...or, drops them off at various collection points. As long as Oregon operates this way, and the power structure sees no reason to change, I'll never vote again.

Not being adversarial here, I am asking: What makes you so certain that elections are being routinely "rigged". Do you have any facts or are you just unhappy with the results of elections that do not happen to agree with your point of view and so they must have been rigged?

[cowtown]

Originally posted by fastpat

America is my country, and apparently not yours. Go back to your country, or stay in it if you're there now.

No, your country is that place with no highways, Internet, or military. But thanks for playing.