hows your capacity for socially responsible behavior?

[fastpat]

I lived in Montana which has few traffic lights or stop signs in its' largest cities; Great Falls and Billings. True, those cities are around 80,000 population, but they've used basic rules of the road for longer than they've had cars and it works. When I was sent there in the USAF, they made sure everyone knew and understood what was expected of drivers.

Last time I was there, about two years ago, it was much the same. The only roads controlled by lights are four lanes.

[Dennis Kalma]

What can I say? ..let's see how it works!

Seems utterly pragmatic to me, but then again, I fear that it will not scale up to a larger city or higher speeds.....

Every now and again we have a major traffic light failure here in Calgary (about a million here now) after a bit of time, people seem to get used to it and the overall traffic flow is not much worse than with the light.....


Dennis

[Tervuren]

I was driving through a fairly heavily trafficked road in Charlotte - came on a dead stop light - dead, no flashing signal, whatever. People would get there, and just sit there stunned, without being told what to do, they'd sit. I looked around at the other drivers, decided on a time, and moved through.

IF driver's are alert, and are used to making decisions, it works, and Europe's drivers are generaly more alert, and faster acting.

[Drago]

Socialism or not, I like the boobie idea.

[svandamme]

Originally posted by Tervuren
I was driving through a fairly heavily trafficked road in Charlotte - came on a dead stop light - dead, no flashing signal, whatever. People would get there, and just sit there stunned, without being told what to do, they'd sit. I looked around at the other drivers, decided on a time, and moved through.

IF driver's are alert, and are used to making decisions, it works, and Europe's drivers are generaly more alert, and faster acting.

it's quite simple really
through most of Europe if not all of Europe , the following applies

in order of importance

cop instructions
traffic lights
signs
right of way to those coming from the right


so on a normal intersection
if there is no cop, look at the lights
of the lights are out, check for signs ( there wouldn't be any at an intersection that normally has lights)
no cop, no lights,no signs, right of way to those coming from the right... if there's somebody at all 4 ends of the intersection , then the first one to move pretty much wins and breaks the status quo.. but in any case , it's doable if everybody shows a bit of courtesy to the others on the road

[Moses]

Originally posted by Jeff Higgins
Most people, when given free will, do choose the right thing. Socialism takes that responsibility away from them.

Well said.