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Post-Modern Prosecutions...more on the Duke Non-rape case
As most now know, the infamous Duke University rapes never occured, and could not have occured, but many may not know that the Prosecutor in Durham county is still pursuing the case as if a rape took place.
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I hate to say I agree with Pat, but I agree with you Pat. This case is pathetic.
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The hand-wringing ninnies are at it again. This case just "feels" right to them. Nevermind that they are gleefully destroying the futures of three bright young men. Nevermind that they are enthusiastically promoting the lies of a useless crack whore that they would never allow in their own homes, or allow their sons to date. It's all for the cause...
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I haven't followed the story in depth, but everything I've heard does indicate that the stripper is some sort of a pathologic lier -- and the prosecutor's office is playing this for all it's worth (they've gotten more than their fair share of 10 minutes of fame), but I see these "bright young men" (to use your term) as more than a little responsible for the predicament they find themselves in. If you have/attend a drunken party with strippers (we all know that many stripping services are fronts for prostitution), you shouldn't be too surprised if you happen to find yourself embroiled in controversy. If this thing actually goes to trial, I think it will have been carried too far, but if the prosecutor is just holding off on dropping the charges to make these "bright young men" sweat a little more, I can't say I'm in total disagreement with the action. |
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I have talked with my sister numerous times about this case (she is the prosecutor, or solicitor, for three counties in South Carolina):
She said there is no way she would have moved on the case, that the circumstances surrounding the alleged event needed to be properly vetted, which they still haven't.
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It sounds like most of voters are black and the prosecutor is playing to them. Sorry if this offends anyone, but if it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck...
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As for being "unAmerican" -- I have never considered the idea of a person "ending up being arrested when he is accused of rape" as being "unAmerican." Investigations take time and evidence is not always "perfect" (unlike people's TV inspired view of police work). It is the jury's job to determine the validity of each side's evidence. It is not your job to determine guilt or innocence based upon what the media reports. (I am assuming the media is your source of information on this case?) The facts as I know them: A bunch of guys (it sounds to me like "jocks with an attitude" -- I've met the type before) have a drunken party with strippers. One of the strippers goes to authorities and says she has been raped. What do you want the prosecutor to do? Just ignore the accusation because the woman has a questionable background? I have little sympathy for these "boys" -- just as I have minimal sympathy for the stripper if she was in fact raped -- but I am very aware that the defendants' lawyers are the source of most of the accusations questioning the woman's character/story. I have my doubts about both sides' stories. And do not mind seeing these "boys" sweat while a thorough investigation is conducted. A little "rough justice" is not something I'm going to get "outraged" over in this case. There are plenty of other injustices that are far more deserving of my outrage. |
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If the you saw the piece on 60 minutes or 20/20 or whatever show it was a month or so ago, you would have no doubt that it's about the prosecutor getting votes. Yes a rape must be investigated, but when the facts come in and the only evidence indicating a rape is the stripper's ever changing story then it's time to move on. Even her friend who was there said nothing happened. One boy being charged wasn't even there!
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HIJACK The "post modernism" bit seems to be current with our foreign policy, does it not? WMD's can't be found. Well they obviously hid them very well. Therefore they must have existed in the first place. Right?
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It's amazing how much hatred anyone of priveledge can engender in people. So many people believe these guys "deserve" some form of prosecution, even if it has to be on trumped up charges, because they are rich and white. This lying whore "deserves" her pound of flesh because she is poor and black. The non-contributor, the one who has wasted (and will probably continue to waste) her life gets all the sympathy, no matter the burden she represents to society. Even those that suspect she is lying are alright with that, just to teach the rich white boys a "lesson". Such spite...
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If your conclusions about this rape case are drawn as hastily and based upon as little "evidence" as those conclusions you have come to about me and the philosophy I hold, then I have all the more reason to doubt the veracity of your argument. (Your conclusions about me are flat wrong.) You say that you have knowledge about this case "from someone who's following the case closely" -- I've conceded in my first statement that I have not followed the case closely, but if the prosecutor's case is as full of holes as you imply, it should be a "walk in the park" for the defense attorneys to get the facts in front of a judge and get the charges dismissed -- or are you going to tell me that all the judges in that jurisdiction are "prejudiced" against "rich, white boys, who are athletes" (just like I supposedly am) and cannot see what is so obvious to people like you? I'll say it again, this is not a case where a group of boys were on their way to choir practice and suddenly a "crack whore" (to use someone's earlier description of the woman) leaps out from the bushes and starts screaming "They raped me!" I am maintaining my position that there are two sides in this story, and that I think the defendants have been very successful in getting their side -- with their slant -- into the media. I will concede that there are plenty of "jerk" prosecutors -- this may be a case involving one, but if these young men are wealthy as you claim they are, they should have no difficulty finding the right attorneys who will put such a prosecutor in his/her place. The worst injustices occur when poor innocent defendants are convicted because their public defenders cannot give them an adequate defense against "jerk" prosecutors -- at least in this case (if we accept that the prosecutor is a moron) the defendants can lawyer up adequately. (I'm sure you'll be able to spin that last comment into something about me being "biased" against rich people -- LOL!) |
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Can't believe I agree with him, but fastpat is completely right. The community has a bone to pick with the mostly upper-middle class, white student body and this poor excuse for a prosecutor is playing right into it for them.
There's no reason this should be pursued any further. And the comment about letting these kid's "sweat it out" is completely asinine. There was no crime committed
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