Anything good or bad about the new X5?

daepp · 12-13-2006, 10:16 AM

Thinking of replacing my current ride with an X5 - has anyone driven one of these yet?

Current ride is a MBZ ML430 - built on a VERY stiff frame. It's been a good car but it has 150K miles on it and my daughter is about to start driving. It has little resale value and is very safe(6 airbags), so I think she will be driving it.

The X5 is is a unibody, so it should have a better ride. How about build quality of newish Bimmers?

89911 · 12-13-2006, 10:25 AM

I've got a 2002 4.6X5 that I've been happy with. It has a very stiff ride which I like, but rear passengers and my wife don't. It is a well made, solid vehichle that has 57K on it with no rattles or noise of any kind. I also have been looking at the new X5 since I need additional seating. I'm going to wait for a diesel because I can't justify the 14 mpg I'm getting. Very expensive too. I think a loaded 4.8 is pushing close to $70-80K?

daepp · 12-13-2006, 10:47 AM

Yeah - the 7 seat option really saved me over the years. But now my youngest child is 11 and 5 feet tall.

89911 · 12-13-2006, 12:16 PM

You might want to check out the new MB diesel SUV. It's gotten good reviews and the rear seating is actually very good. Styling wise, I could pass.

daepp · 12-13-2006, 12:19 PM

You cannot imagine how much I'd like to do that - but here in California it's currently an impossibility. Even the new Bluetec engine is not ok as of this date.

It's especially frustratiing as I have 1100 gallons of diesel in the yard behind our office.

89911 · 12-13-2006, 01:36 PM

I think in 08 they will have one for CA, if you can wait. I'm tempted to buy a used SUV for when I need to tow or for hauling kids, (4) and just get a nice sedan for myself. Damn families!

daepp · 12-13-2006, 01:52 PM

Yeah - having 3 kids really changes your perspective about SUV's. First off, you need the room - esp. on road trips. Then there's the safety factor - I've spent many years getting these kids to young adulthood, and I'll be damned if they get needlessly hurt in some accident. And then there's the towing...

RKC · 12-13-2006, 03:42 PM

Been looking too. Mercedes has great room, but doesn't look spectacular from the outside. Audi is nice inside, but outside seems odd to me. Local BMW dealer didn't have any to show 2 weeks ago, so I haven't seen one in person, but the third row seat is the only reason I can look at them now - I'm soccer coach to teams spring and fall, and need the room......Have an MDX now, which is nice but boring. New one is OK, but costs German money, so figured we might as well get an all German fleet. Or South Carolina/Eastern Europe really - LOL!

89911 · 12-13-2006, 05:08 PM

Your tastes are much like mine. I've been looking at the MDX also. Kind of a neat car, but when the try to cram a 3rd row in a car that really has no part in having one, all the passengers behind the driver suffer. Performance wise the car is great and the looks are too bad. I also looked at the MB R350Diesel. Kind of interesting I guess. Doesn't tow but you can get one in a diesel. 6 passengers only. I'm thinking its more station wagon the SUV. I saw the Audi over the summer and didn't know what to think. It just looked big and bloated. Audi scares me with the reliability anyway. Like I said maybe I buy a Soprano Escalade that must be going for pennies on the dollar since the last gas crisis. That, or I'll just wait for a diesel X5. It's kind of hard to find a car the fits all your needs. So far the X5 4.6is has.

daepp · 12-14-2006, 08:03 AM

The new X5 is longer. My ML had the 7 seat option, and it came in very handy over the years - and there was enough room for 2 adults and 5 medium to small kids. Like you said, leaving the soccer field, spur of the moment extra kids coming for a visit, etc. And since the new X5 is longer - don't know if longer than the old ML - there should be enough room.

For once, however, I don't need longer and I don't need the third row option.

BTW - on the ML these extra seats were VERY heavy and very secure.

nostatic · nostatic's Garage

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Originally posted by daepp
Then there's the safety factor - I've spent many years getting these kids to young adulthood, and I'll be damned if they get needlessly hurt in some accident.

what safety factor? Many SUVs seem less safe than passenger cars.

daepp · 12-14-2006, 08:16 AM

I think they are safer than most cars. There's hardly any substitute for a lot of steel, air bags and crumple zones. I believe the vehicle with the greatest mass - most of the time - wins.

And I believe the roll-over risk was primarily a six-o'clock news story. Consumer Reports confessed to screwing with some of their rollover studies. AFAIK the still make millions of them - seem like there has to be a pretty good reason, since trendy now = Prius or hybrid.

JavaBrewer · JavaBrewer's Garage

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Originally posted by nostatic
what safety factor? Many SUVs seem less safe than passenger cars.

Well you'd have a hard time convincing my SIL of that after her Navigator got rear ended by a large truck. Would not have turned out well if she were in a smaller car for sure. SUV's are inherently dangerous when driven like a sports car. Higher center of gravity + 4500+ lbs + latte + 60 mph in a 25 mph turn = probable crash. We've had a SUV in our house for 10 years and have nothing but good to report, well....sort of....

Subscribed for round 17,832 of the SUV bashing craze.

daepp · 12-14-2006, 08:48 AM

Quick - put on the flame retardent suit.

BTW - how would hte SIL have fared in a Prius?

JavaBrewer · JavaBrewer's Garage

Well considering a large delivery truck failed to note the stopped traffic and SIL's Navigator got crushed from the tailpipe up to the second row - well - the math gets easy. In that contest the height and mass of the SUV saved their lives.

nostatic · nostatic's Garage

great, lets all just own bigger and heavier cars...the one with the most mass wins!

Accidents happen. If it is your time, it is your time. Doesn't matter if you're in a Navigator or a Yaris.

daepp · 12-14-2006, 10:21 AM

Do you have kids? If not, I might respectfully suggest that your perspective could change a little about the "if it's your time".

fastpat · 12-14-2006, 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by daepp
You cannot imagine how much I'd like to do that - but here in California it's currently an impossibility. Even the new Bluetec engine is not ok as of this date.

It's especially frustratiing as I have 1100 gallons of diesel in the yard behind our office.

Buy it out of state, own it for 90 days, then bring it in.

nostatic · nostatic's Garage

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Originally posted by daepp
Do you have kids? If not, I might respectfully suggest that your perspective could change a little about the "if it's your time".

yeah, I do have a son, age 10. I don't feel the need to drive around in a 5K lb SUV to "protect" him. Maybe you could ponder the world you are leaving to your kids and how your current "footprint" affects it...

Or how about when you make an honest mistake and the bumper of your suv crushed the head of some other parent driving a regular passenger car.

I understand that there are a number of reasons for owning an SUV. I do not consider "safety by size/weight" to be a valid one. It is a selfish rationalization and typical of the "me at all cost" american attitude. Respectfully suggested of course...

nostatic · nostatic's Garage

regarding the X5, LA Times review:

http://www.latimes.com/classified/automotive/highway1/la-hy-neil13dec13,0,2954015.story?coll=la-home-highway1