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cool_chick 12-22-2006 03:46 PM

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Originally posted by slakjaw
Yeah. I would. Why wouldnt you?
What would you do, Kyle?

m21sniper 12-22-2006 03:50 PM

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Originally posted by cool_chick
[B]You are making the allegations that it's all of them, it is up to you to prove it is, not me to prove it's not (you're asking for proof of a negative, which is moronic, but not surprising coming from you).
That is the debating equivelant to "Ninganinganana!"

cool_chick 12-22-2006 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by island911
So, your 1 Muslim neighbor is the basis for your opinions.
No, it's not.


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Seriously, what dilusional world do you live in to not see the large group of Muslims happy or okay with 9/11?
I never said no muslim wasn't "happy" or "ok" with 9/11. Where did you get that rediculous notion...I never said anything like that... I know there were easily thousands who were. What I am saying I highly doubt it's even any sort of majority was "happy" or "ok" with 9/11. 50% is 650 million muslims.

m21sniper 12-22-2006 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by cool_chick The lack of reading comprehension on this moron's part is accusing me falsely of something I"m not doing.
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I am sorry god blessed me with 'only' a 138 IQ. :(

cool_chick 12-22-2006 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by m21sniper
That is the debating equivelant to "Ninganinganana!"
Perspective isn't your strong point, chicken little scardy-pants is, so yes, debating with you is equivalant to the special olympics.

slakjaw 12-22-2006 03:53 PM

Ya know what. If there really are so few "radicals" and 99.99999% of these people are good folks I believe that I would have no trouble finding supporters to fight the individuals who give my people a bad name.The ones who bring violence to my community and plot against the ones who are trying to help me.

Anyways,

Night Y'all

scottmandue 12-22-2006 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by cool_chick

So I'm not an apologist, since I'm not apologizing for anything....

I don't want to pick nits with you CC but you missed the point, if you read the definition an apologist does not apologize for something but defends their position.

As I understand it your position is that there is a group of terrorist that just happen to be Muslims but they are a small percentage of the Muslim population and you are doing nothing more that debating that position.

To apologize is different:
a·pol·o·gize Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[uh-pol-uh-jahyz] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used without object), -gized, -giz·ing. 1. to offer an apology or excuse for some fault, insult, failure, or injury: He apologized for accusing her falsely.

Sorry, didn't mean to get all pedantic on you...

Class dismissed... have a merry Christmas and grab a Kwansa cookie on you way out.

cool_chick 12-22-2006 03:54 PM

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Originally posted by m21sniper
I am sorry god blessed me with 'only' a 138 IQ. :(
So, if it's not your reading comprehension, then the only other possibility is you like lying.

scottmandue 12-22-2006 03:56 PM

Anyone else notice how Todd just lit the fuse on this thread and just walked away. ;) :p ;) :p

cool_chick 12-22-2006 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by scottmandue
I don't want to pick nits with you CC but you missed the point, if you read the definition an apologist does not apologize for something but defends their position.

As I understand it your position is that there is a group of terrorist that just happen to be Muslims but they are a small percentage of the Muslim population and you are doing nothing more that debating that position.

To apologize is different:
a·pol·o·gize Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[uh-pol-uh-jahyz] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used without object), -gized, -giz·ing. 1. to offer an apology or excuse for some fault, insult, failure, or injury: He apologized for accusing her falsely.

Sorry, didn't mean to get all pedantic on you...

Class dismissed... have a merry Christmas and grab a Kwansa cookie on you way out.

Duder, lay off the eggnog! LOL (just kidding)

a·pol·o·gist (ə-pŏl'ə-jĭst) Pronunciation Key
n. A person who argues in defense or justification of something, such as a doctrine, policy, or institution.

This would mean I'm defending the policy or doctrine or institution of killing people and the religion itself being the cause. It's not the religion itself......I'm not defending the policy of killing people, I'm defending those who are innocent of these horrific deeds. So no, I'm not an apologist.

Edit: and you have a Merry Christmas as well. May we never forget what's really important.......people.

m21sniper 12-22-2006 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by cool_chick
Perspective isn't your strong point, chicken little scardy-pants is, so yes, debating with you is equivalant to the special olympics.
Yep, bolster your (lack of a) point with (extremely) lame and unimaginative insults. Definitely a time proven debating strategy...or not.

Come on miss, SURELY you can do better. :)

Tervuren 12-22-2006 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by m21sniper
And YOU do???

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What is 1% of 1.4 billion.....Oh, right....it's an ARMY.

Sell your apologist commentary to Nick Berg miss. Oh wait, he ALREADY thought like you do. Until they hacked his damned head off with a knife for his troubles.

I was talking with someone who turned their back on Islam after having been brought up in, and sent to the highest level muslim schools(father was Imam). Its actualy more like %12. That guy knew so much, he was all into knowledge and finding truth.

cool_chick 12-22-2006 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by m21sniper
Yep, bolster your (lack of a) point with (extremely) lame and unimaginative insults. Definitely a time proven debating strategy...or not.

Come on miss, SURELY you can do better. :)

YOu started it, with the "deluded" bull*****. Don't want your pathetic behavior in return, don't start it. And it's a hell of a lot more imaginative than your crap.

cool_chick 12-22-2006 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by Tervuren
I was talking with someone who turned their back on Islam after having been brought up in, and sent to the highest level muslim schools(father was Imam). Its actualy more like %12. That guy knew so much, he was all into knowledge and finding truth.
That's 130 million muslims. You're saying 130 million muslims are terrorists or something? Specifically, what was 12%?

m21sniper 12-22-2006 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by cool_chick
So, if it's not your reading comprehension, then the only other possibility is you like lying.
Or that you're wrong.

Imagine that.

m21sniper 12-22-2006 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by cool_chick
YOu started it, with the "deluded" bull*****. Don't want your pathetic behavior in return, don't start it. And it's a hell of a lot more imaginative than your crap.
Saying you are deluded is hardly the same as calling you a yellow bellied scaredy pants whatevermajigger thingy mabob or whatever it is you called me.

And yes, you are a muslim apologist. :)

m21sniper 12-22-2006 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by cool_chick
That's 130 million muslims. You're saying 130 million muslims are terrorists or something? Specifically, what was 12%?
Actually miss, 12% is 168,000,000. ;)

cool_chick 12-22-2006 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by m21sniper
Or that you're wrong.

Imagine that.


I am not wrong about what I think. I am the one who is thinking it. I am more right about what I think that you are about what I think. I think this:

But I"m not justifying the bad actions by the creepy bastards. I don't really dig murder, rape, crime, etc. Not my cup of tea. The lack of reading comprehension on this moron's part is accusing me falsely of something I"m not doing.

I am saying that the actions of the bad jackasses belongs on the actions of the jackasses and is not (1) the religion's fault, but the jackass's fault and (2) is not the actions of the billion + innocent muslims out there... It's pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain.



You're erroneously claiming I'm an apologist for the bad behavior, which is wrong. Either (1) you lack reading comprehension skills or (2) you like to lie. Which is it?

Nathans_Dad 12-22-2006 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by slakjaw
Ya know what. If there really are so few "radicals" and 99.99999% of these people are good folks I believe that I would have no trouble finding supporters to fight the individuals who give my people a bad name.The ones who bring violence to my community and plot against the ones who are trying to help me.
Amen...

+14,000,000

cool_chick 12-22-2006 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by Tervuren
I was talking with someone who turned their back on Islam after having been brought up in, and sent to the highest level muslim schools(father was Imam). Its actualy more like %12. That guy knew so much, he was all into knowledge and finding truth.
That's 168 million muslims. You're saying 168 million muslims are terrorists or something? Specifically, what was 12%?

VaSteve 12-22-2006 04:09 PM

Before this turns into a CC vs. the world thread, oops too late....

I will have to say that I have some level of respect for Virgil Goode. While his opinion may be misguided, unpopular, close minded, or wrong...I had some admiration for a public figure who will make a statement and stand behind it and not bend down and "apologize" when asked to by coalitions, special interest groups or whathaveyou.

Didn't this country used to be made up of people who'd speak their mind and stand behind it? Political suicide be damned.


(Closeminded is easy, open minded means you have to accept all opinions, even the close minded ones that don't agree with yous. LOL)

m21sniper 12-22-2006 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by cool_chick
I am not wrong about what I think. I am the one who is thinking it. I am more right about what I think that you are about what I think.
Wow.

CC in a nutshell.

"I speak therefore i am right."

LOL, truly you are a wonderful example of the 1st rate entertainment that is to be found on the web. K.U.D.O.S. :D

cool_chick 12-22-2006 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by Nathans_Dad
Amen...

+14,000,000

Their structure doesn't have a single head. They need a unifying person to expel these extremist tyrants from their lands. We seen a shift in the last 40 years or so into the hands of these loony cruel extremists, I know Iran has an underground wanting to expel these people, those kids even booed that president last week, remember? It's just a matter of time before they get the guts and solidarity to do it....... I don't think America is helping though...in the last 6 years, we've turned our backs on those good people and made them the enemy too......

cool_chick 12-22-2006 04:15 PM

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Originally posted by m21sniper
[B]Wow.

CC in a nutshell.

"I speak therefore i am right."
Yes. I am right about knowing what I think. I know what I think more than you know what I think. Conversely, you know what you think more than I know what you think. Scott knows what he thinks more than I know what he thinks. Kyle knows what he thinks more than you know what he thinks. This is hilarious. Your comprehension is so bad you don't even know why I said your comprehension is bad.

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LOL, truly you are a wonderful example of the 1st rate entertainment that is to be found on the web. K.U.D.O.S. :D
Actually, that's you. Your comprehension is so bad and your train of thought is so poor, you don't even remember what was initially discussed when I said your comprehension was poor. Like I said, talking to you is like the special olympics.

LOL

m21sniper 12-22-2006 04:18 PM

CC, the founder of the religion was one of "these loony creul extremists."(he was also- depending on your definition of the word- a pedophile as well)

Mohammed, PBUH spread Islam by the sword from the day he came to power right up until about the time of his death.

US citizens were first beheaded by Muslim extremists not in Iraq, but in civilian vessels sailing off the Barbary coast- in the 1700's.

You knew that. Right?

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Originally posted by cool_chick u. Your comprehension is so bad and your train of thought is so poor, you don't even remember what was initially discussed when I said your comprehension was poor. Like I said, talking to you is like the special olympics.

LOL

God i love this place... :D

cool_chick 12-22-2006 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by m21sniper
I have news CC, the founder of the religion was one of "these loony creul extremists."

Mohammed, PBUH then spread Islam by the sword from the day he came to power right up until about the time of his death.

US citizens were first beheaded by Muslim extremists not in Iraq, but in civilian vessels sailing off the Barbary coast- in the 1700's.

You knew that. Right?

That's debatable. That's not what Muslims are taught. They're taught that he was a good man and his people were persecuted by the Pagans, and the Christians and Jews helped his people. History is often twisted by people. Whether you're right or Muslims are right, we need a time machine to know for sure.

People have been beheading for thousands of years. Ever hear of the guillotine?

m21sniper 12-22-2006 04:23 PM

What's debatable?

That Mohammed, PBUH was a pedophile? It's written in the Koran in several passages. What do you call having a wife that is single digits in age?

Mohammed spread Islam at the tip of a spear, and the conquered and subjugated became his muslim horde. This is all a matter of historical fact miss. I'm not making any of it up. :)

dtw 12-22-2006 04:24 PM

Behold True Islam!

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well it's coming! Real Soon Now. Just wait a little more. Seriously. I'm credible. Believe me.



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cool_chick 12-22-2006 04:26 PM

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Originally posted by m21sniper
What's debatable?

That Mohammed, PBUH was a pedophile? It's written in the Koran in several passages. What do you call having a wife that is single digits in age?
Everyone was a pedophile back then. They all married as children all over the world and usually died by age 30.

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Mohammed spread Islam at the tip of a spear, and the conquered and subjugated became his muslim horde. This is all a matter of historical fact miss. I'm not making any of it up. :) [
That's debatable. That's not what Muslims are taught. They're taught that he was a good man and his people were persecuted by the Pagans, and the Christians and Jews helped his people. History is often twisted by people. Whether you're right or Muslims are right, we need a time machine to know for sure.

cool_chick 12-22-2006 04:29 PM

DTW, I suppose you believe rock-and-roll records and Catcher in the Rye should be banned because they cause murders too...

:rolleyes:

VaSteve 12-22-2006 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by cool_chick


That's debatable. That's not what Muslims are taught. They're taught that he was a good man and his people were persecuted by the Pagans, and the Christians and Jews helped his people.

Which Muslims and by who? The world over? Even in the militant mosques? CC, your debate skills are debateable. :rolleyes:

dd74 12-22-2006 04:37 PM

I'm not sure it's been mentioned in this thread, but the Congressman elect in question, Keith Ellison, said today that his American roots trace back to about more than three generations to Louisiana.

To be quite frank, I'm more afraid of Cajuns and their spicy gumbo than I am Muslims and the narrow-minded fears some Americans want to instill in other Americans about them.

But of course these are the faces of biblical horror:
http://www.keithellison.org/photos/EllisonFamily.jpg
What's next? People will rue a man because he celebrates Kwanzaa instead of Xmas?

:rolleyes:

cool_chick 12-22-2006 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by VaSteve
[B]Which Muslims and by who? The world over?
Muslims the world over, yes.

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Even in the militant mosques?
No. That's like the David Koresh style of Islam. It's illogical, being offensive defies all that the Koran forbids (murder, rape, etc.), just like giving your prebuscent daughter to the "priest" defies the Christian written words.

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CC, your debate skills are debateable.
Not sure what that means, but whatever you say......

island911 12-22-2006 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by VaSteve
. . CC, your debate skills are debateable. :rolleyes:
Werd.

. . but what really matters is what she thinks her debate skilz are. :D

dtw 12-22-2006 04:53 PM

Behold, as True Islam rises up from the Most Sincere Mosque, distributing Truth to the Believers.

Flee, infidels!

(note: this is an artist rendering of what that 'would' look like. The actual rising-up hasn't happened just yet. But it will. Soon. Invest in cotton...soon the orders for 3B burqas will be coming in...)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1166838677.jpg

cool_chick 12-22-2006 04:57 PM

DTW, I suppose you believe rock-and-roll records and Catcher in the Rye should be banned because they are violent and cause murders too...

:rolleyes:

on-ramp 12-22-2006 05:09 PM

you see now? all the problems religion causes.

nostatic 12-22-2006 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by scottmandue
Anyone else notice how Todd just lit the fuse on this thread and just walked away. ;) :p ;) :p
my job here is done. Now I'm off to the ME...

Joeaksa 12-22-2006 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by Moses
Scary because the congressman is predicting the same political upheaval that France, Germany and the Netherlands are already experiencing, or scary because the southern redneck is bigot who needs a lesson in political correctness?
Even more so all one has to do is look at Lebanon. Twenty years ago the country was 60% Christian and 40% Moslem. Now the roles have reversed with 60% Moslem. All of this was done because the Moslem leaders said to have all the kids you can have and lets overwhelm them in one generation. The Christians have been having 2 kids per family and the Moslems 6-7... you do the math. Once they reach voting age (21) the game is up.

Its working and the last 10 days in Beirut the Moslems have flooded the city center demanding a new government, a MOSLEM government even though they have not been elected and elections are years away.

Think that it cannot happen here? It can and will if we are not careful. Next time you see a Moslem family on the street count the number of kids where-ever you are in the world. Bet its more than 2...

DavidI 12-22-2006 05:23 PM

The primary reason America was founded was freedom of religion. Are we changing our minds now?

David


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