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What's it going to be like when Rudy get elected president?
I will vote for Mccain but I predict that Rudy is our next president. Dont think I am really looking forward to that.
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Too liberal for the Republican Party.....
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The "moral majority" will be VERY unhappy.......
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Rudy'll want to move the US Capitol to NYC. Better restaurants.
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I would say that it will never happen, but after the last couple of elections I have given up the word impossible.
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The Moral Majority will accept an adulterer?
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The far right votes in Republican primaries. Not gonna happen.
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rudy! rudy! he has my vote, he may not be the revolutionary that Pat wants, but he is a heck of a good leader. Middled of the road views and strong on domestic stuff, just what we need here and soon. He is not a crusader like the little furher is, not as communist as the democrats and has great track records from being a mob stopper to the guy that kept it together at 9/11
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I think he is very electable, both in the nomination and general election (just as I believe Hillary Clinton is, for different reasons). How can this be? There is always a fascinating split in American politics between what seems possible or not possible on paper, in the dry calculations of allegiances, and then what we see in the actual event of someone running, speaking, engaging the dynamism of leadership in action.
Rudy Guiliani can win because the actuality and authenticity of the man is greater than the sum of the concerns. Moreover, because he has not only managed a grossly unmanageable city but done so in superior fashion. To read the full account of Rudy's stewardship of New York is almost to read a miracle of modern political confrontation and problem-solving; I suggest Steven Malanga's pieces in the City Journal. Rudy took on at least dozen of the city's most hardened defenders of failed liberal status quo and whipped them again and again. No one running can bring such a record to the campaign. This is deeply appealing to conservatives and, more broadly I think, to Americans. As for primary conservatives not supporting him for moral reasons, I can only refer to the predictions about how conservative rural Democrats would turn against John F. Kennedy in the 1960 primaries. They didn't. Once again, political predictions by the mainstream media completely missed this key element of the human story, that is, how the alchemy of leadership takes a debate beyond the limits of litmus. Of course, the unknown is how well Mitt Romney, Rudy's main rival, plays his cards. Forget McCain -- he is the flip side of this story about conventional wisdom. The primary voters will indeed reject him, for in him they correctly sense another temporizing poiltician who needs to be liked more than is willing to or knows how to lead. In his bones, McCain is a parliamentarian and not an executive. That's not Rudy's problem.
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"The problem for Giuliani is that some of the GOP's "loyal base" would consider him not not so much the guy who refuses to drink the base's Koolaid as the guy who'd poison it with cyanide: "Giuliani is an ultraliberal," Sanders said. "He supports gay rights. He supports banning all handguns. He supports abortion. His wife kicked him out, and he moved in with two gay men and a Shih Tzu. Is that South Carolina values? I don't think so." This position is echoed by many red staters, such as this Second Amendment blogger in South Carolina: Giuliani was not questioned much about his record on the three G's (God, Guns, and Gays). However, the record will show that Giuliani has supported gay marriage, abortion, and gun control. Most observers would naturally assume that Giuliani won't play well here. But, Bandy seems to think otherwise. Bandy's flawed assessment is based on his interpretation of the lack of questions on social issues. He surmises that people don't care and are actually focused on other things, namely national security. He may be right about that current focus, but even that won't bode well for an anti-gun Giuliani. Think about it. What clear thinking person who is actually focused on national security would support someone who wants to take away their guns? If we suddenly find ourselves fighting terrorist here on South Carolina soil, I want every advantage I can have. I'm certain that many people agree. God, guns, gays. It has an alliterative ring that just keeps on giving on a gut level, doesn't it? " What plays in LA may not in Alabama.
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well the thing he has going is that he will appeal to democratic voters in addition to republican(he will lose some of these for his views, but will more than pick up the difference in crossover). He will have strong backing from non declared voters and will do well in democratic states i think. Honestly I really feel that he is the guy because he combines both parties views, and he is not spoken in the same breathe as Bush (that is political suicide at this point), so he is distanced from the current regime
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I do agree he can't make it out of the Repub primary. You can have all the analysis, thinking, words, etc. you want, but it can be summed up in one word:
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