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They have NO idea of what they are messing with

The radicals of the world have NO idea if what they are messing with, NONE!! We are in a war, a war that has NO effect on our daily lives, our pocketbooks, nothing! They are fighting for their lives

We only spend 3 % on defense, thats THREE PERCENT! In WWII we spent 10 times this ammount, in fact we spent so much we are still using bombs left over from that war!! There may have a couple of new electronic gadgets attached, but our bombs were produced over 60 years ago!!!! Add to this our capability using atomic bombs and related devices and you have overwhelming power that cannot be defeated. What if we were to resume production of war equipment at the WWII level?? We could destroy every single inch of the world 5 times over, and never have to resort to atomic devices!!!!

Yet they still fk with us. They poke us with sticks. Someday we will get really annoyed and strike back. THEY really need to keep this in mind.

Just how do we convey this fact to them without destroying half the world? Or do we have to follow thru?

The sane people on their side need to convince their people that they will lose if they continue down the path they have chosen. If they do not, they will be destroyed, along with a lot of innocents.

The left needs to use this information to help stop them, it will not stop us, they will not stop us. In fact the left usually gets totally out of control and is ultimately responsible for the total destruction of the enemy, they are either ON or OFF, they are incapable of seeing the grey shades that us conservatives see.

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The broad masses of a population are more amenable to the appeal of rhetoric than to any other force. The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one. The victor will never be asked if he told the truth.

The great strength of the totalitarian state is that it forces those who fear it to imitate it. Universal education is the most corroding and disintegrating poison that liberalism has ever invented for its own destruction. The leader of genius must have the ability to make different opponents appear as if they belonged to one category.

What good fortune for governments that the people do not think. Who says I am not under the special protection of God?
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Don't get me wrong here...I'm all for destroying half the world. But I think you are mistaken...I think the Taliban understands USA politics very well. More so than those who support Pelosi, Kennedy, et al.
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Some people have a different perspective on purpose and life/death. Some cultures and societies need to be ruled with an iron hand while others can make better social choices. The middlebeast cultures work best as distant traders. Those cultures/religions do not work well in close proximity of each other. Even the Euro-Christian societies rarely get along but the various Islamic religions… fa-git-about it.

It is going to require some serious, thorough communication and self-examination. Their religion is so strongly rooted in the way they think because it provides then comfort and solace in a very troubled and dangerous land.

The only way they will calm down and consider reason is if life becomes less of a hassle. That means less danger and more hope for the future. Bombing them into yesterday will only keep them there. I am not suggesting buying them all big screens, bags of Doritos and leather loveseats. It is not the people as much as it is their leaders. There has to be a better way and I am not so sure anymore that killing them is it.
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al-Zawahir says constantly to force the Americans to run away.

Pelosi says Iraq is not a war to win but a situation to manage.



Pelosi never mentioned where to run away to.
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al-Zawahir says constantly to force the Americans to run away.

Pelosi says Iraq is not a war to win but a situation to manage.



Pelosi never mentioned where to run away to.
Well said, Ron
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Re: They have NO idea of what they are messing with

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The radicals of the world have NO idea if what they are messing with, NONE!! We are in a war, a war that has NO effect on our daily lives, our pocketbooks, nothing! They are fighting for their lives

We only spend 3 % on defense, thats THREE PERCENT! In WWII we spent 10 times this ammount, in fact we spent so much we are still using bombs left over from that war!! There may have a couple of new electronic gadgets attached, but our bombs were produced over 60 years ago!!!! Add to this our capability using atomic bombs and related devices and you have overwhelming power that cannot be defeated. What if we were to resume production of war equipment at the WWII level?? We could destroy every single inch of the world 5 times over, and never have to resort to atomic devices!!!!

Yet they still fk with us. They poke us with sticks. Someday we will get really annoyed and strike back. THEY really need to keep this in mind.

Just how do we convey this fact to them without destroying half the world? Or do we have to follow thru?

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Yes. And yet, with some basic flight training and a couple of box cutters they manage to bring us down.

And what do we do in response to this? What - spend 500 million liberating a bunch of sandmonkeys who don't appreciate our good will.
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al-Zawahir says constantly to force the Americans to run away.

Pelosi says Iraq is not a war to win but a situation to manage.

Pelosi never mentioned where to run away to.
Why do you think she wants the 757-200, she wants to be able to run far and fast and leave the rest of us hanging, no shlt!!!!
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Yes. And yet, with some basic flight training and a couple of box cutters they manage to bring us down.

And what do we do in response to this? What - spend 500 million liberating a bunch of sandmonkeys who don't appreciate our good will.
What do you mean "we" here? You are not an American, and do not live in America. Go and play with a kangaroo.

When was the last time you were in Iraq, or even in the Middle East? I spent over 5 months there last year, and about the same amount of time there in 2005. Know the people and area very well. Please tell us your experience in this area.

Peloisi is a joke and when the terrorists stage another attack on the US she will run and hide in the bunker somewhere. Then we may finally get the OK to nuke Tehran and possibly Mecca. These people understand only one thing, and thats force.
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Re: They have NO idea of what they are messing with

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The radicals of the world have NO idea if what they are messing with, NONE!! We are in a war, a war that has NO effect on our daily lives, our pocketbooks, nothing! They are fighting for their lives

We only spend 3 % on defense, thats THREE PERCENT! In WWII we spent 10 times this ammount, in fact we spent so much we are still using bombs left over from that war!! There may have a couple of new electronic gadgets attached, but our bombs were produced over 60 years ago!!!! Add to this our capability using atomic bombs and related devices and you have overwhelming power that cannot be defeated. What if we were to resume production of war equipment at the WWII level?? We could destroy every single inch of the world 5 times over, and never have to resort to atomic devices!!!!

Yet they still fk with us. They poke us with sticks. Someday we will get really annoyed and strike back. THEY really need to keep this in mind.

Just how do we convey this fact to them without destroying half the world? Or do we have to follow thru?

The sane people on their side need to convince their people that they will lose if they continue down the path they have chosen. If they do not, they will be destroyed, along with a lot of innocents.

The left needs to use this information to help stop them, it will not stop us, they will not stop us. In fact the left usually gets totally out of control and is ultimately responsible for the total destruction of the enemy, they are either ON or OFF, they are incapable of seeing the grey shades that us conservatives see.
Suffice it to say you're just a touch inaccurate above. Here's the real picture, typical of a militaristic empire.

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Re: They have NO idea of what they are messing with

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We only spend 3 % on defense, thats THREE PERCENT!
Where do you get this *****?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2008/summarytables.html

At quick glance, it looks like in 2006 the US spent close to a quarter of the overall expenditures on defense. This isn't a biased source, this is data from the US gov't.
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According to the link I posted, in FY06 the US gov't spent $2.655 trillion (2655 billion) in total. Of that, 410 billion was on defense. That's just under 16%. Sorry, I was a little over saying close to a quarter, but that's way more than 3%.
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Lets not get bogged down in statistics, and focus on whats really the issue here: snowmans need for medication.
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According to the link I posted, in FY06 the US gov't spent $2.655 trillion (2655 billion) in total. Of that, 410 billion was on defense. That's just under 16%. Sorry, I was a little over saying close to a quarter, but that's way more than 3%.
Snowman is correct. Obviously he was (accurately) referring to the percentage of GNP or GDP (not of overall spending)which is the typical and the only practical way to express military spending. Many countries spend much more as a percentage of GDP.
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