Isn't this thread about ANN COULTER. I don't like what Maher said either, but we talking 'bout COULTER. Shoulda started a Maher thread, brother.

what he probably means is that you likely are religious and are offended by the quote. If they are "just words" then it shouldn't make a difference, and since you obviously aren't gay you don't care one whit about those types of epithets.

Some are deflecting the argument.

1. There is a difference between a high profile public figure making a comment at a public event and joe sixpack posting on PPOT. If you think they have the same impact then I would suggest you need some enlightenment.

2. Just because Maher says something indefensible does not absolve AC from her comment. But if you want to discuss his comments...

3. It is highly arguable whether Maher's comment "kills Marines and emboldens the enemy."

4. AC's comment was a direct personal attack. As was Maher's on Cheney (both disgusting, both protected under the first amendment unless somebody goes to court).

5. Maher's comment about religion was not a direct personal attack. I would venture a guess that "90% of the world's population" don't know who Maher is and don't really care what he says.

6.All of this falls under free speech, but that doesn't make it socially/morally acceptable. And there are limits to free speech...you can't say *anything* you want. And even if what you say is covered under 1st amendment rights, you still can suffer blowback from opening your big yap. Of course AC lives for blowback. Without it she would be a struggling associate chasing ambulances for Larry H. Parker...

I'd like a source (like the AC video) to prove Maher said what is claimed above. Most of the time 'liberals' are tagged with alleged quotes by the "right" that are made up -- like the supposed Gore quote about inventing the Internet.

Maher did not say "too bad the terrorist missed Dick Cheney"


Back on Coulter

"Just because Maher says something indefensible does not absolve AC from her comment"

+1

The Republicans lose any moral high ground in defense of her comments.

Right . .. because suggesting that some fem, touchy, prissy-haired GUY might be a ******, is THE SAME as suggesting th VP USA should have been killed. :rolleyes:

Is that your final answer?

Gore actually said that he "took the initiative in creating the Internet"

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/03/09/president.2000/transcript.gore/index.html

looks like the Lib's are making up stories about the "right" making up lies.

Lib = Liar² ?

Yes, that's what Gore said, and in fact, that claim is supportable. What's interesting is that while Gore was pushing the development of the high speed Internet, Dubya was struggling with his drinking and losing $3 million with his company. But I guess accomplishments and character don't count much in presidential races.

C'mon, "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet" is overstating it a wee bit, no?

What I remember is that Gore was tasked with putting pressure on Gates et al, to give the govt a backdoor key to their encryption. Not much was ever said about this... but the "Netscape problem" went away shortly there after.

Perhaps Gore was going to say "I took the initiative in creating the Internet insecurity" . ..but then decided to truncate the sentence for national security reasons.

--thats the best bene'o'doubt I give him.


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APPENDIX II: A TIME LINE

EDUCOM summer session on networking for science in Colorado.

1968 NSF’s Office of Computing Activities established regional centers program

First ARPANET IMP installed at UCLA

NSF’s Office of Computing Activities began support for networking research

EDUCOM/NSF Workshop on national science networks

Demonstration of ARPANET at ICCC conference

EDUNET implemented as a network facilitator

First CSNET meeting at the University of Wisconsin organized by L. Landweber

1981 First link established in BITNET between CUNY and Yale

"Press Report" on the need for supercomputers in academic research

CSNET contract awarded by NSF

First of the international meetings ("Landweber meetings") organized by P. Kirstein

Report by the Lax panel on Large Scale Computing

Bardon/Curtis Report on the National Computing Environment for Academic Research

MILNET split off ARPANET. TCP/IP replaces NCP as the operating protocol

US House held two hearings on supercomputing and research

Landweber-Kahn agreement on mixed traffic on ARPANET links to CSNET

NSF established the Office of Advanced Scientific Computing headed by John Connolly

First foreign node on CSNET connected in Israel

NSF awarded grants for supercomputer centers

NCAR meeting of supercomputer center directors: NSFNET architecture established Congressional hearings on federal supercomputer programs: first articulation of computer networking for science as information highways

First NSFNET backbone in operation

Study on a National Research Network commissioned by an Al Gore ammednment to NSF FY87 budget authorization: information superhighway metaphor is launched

OSTP report "A Research and Development Strategy for High Performance Computing" signaled the direction toward NREN

New NSFNET backbone implemented by Merit, IBM and MCI

Gore sponsored congressional hearings on national networking begin

ARPANET is retired

*yawn*

Who cares.

(Note: not anyone's posting in particular, just this whole nonsense to begin with).

So she called someone a "******". So what? Children call each other worse names on playgrounds every day.

damn those facts anyhow!


and Island, as soon as Republicans measure their comments in contrast to any others, rather to common decency, they lose the high moral ground.

"So what? Children call each other worse names on playgrounds every day."

So it's all right by you, I guess? Whatever is said on play grounds between children should be our standard as adults?

All I'm saying is "sticks and stones. . . "

Why should anyone give a rat's arse what some media sensationalist says? Are people THAT sensitive/obsessed with what everyone else thinks of them?

Highly delusional, or maybe the result of decades of therapy?

what's that, a triple-entendre?

btw "******" old def'n was "bundle of sticks" (no "stones" in that bundle, tho' )

You are correct, sir. She performed a valid function when Bill Clinton was president; with the election of George Bush she's fallen flat as a presidential critic and become a shrill shill.

After reading through this little explosion of posts about AC and her remarks, I have two observations:

1) Serious-sounding defenses of AC and her remarks are hilarious and
2) AC probably is a good spokesperson for the conservatives.

3) the "outrage" for her remarks are BS.