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fastpat 03-05-2007 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by Superman
After reading through this little explosion of posts about AC and her remarks, I have two observations:

AC probably is a good spokesperson for the conservatives.

Neo-conservatives, no real conservative in the mold of the old right such as those who opposed the fascism of Franklin Roosevelt, would give her the time of day.

See The American Conservative for examples.
http://images21.fotki.com/v632/photo...agcover-vi.jpgWhen nightmare scenarios are used to justify endless war, it’s time to wake up.

Superman 03-05-2007 01:54 PM

You're funny too, Island. If you spin it fast enough, then you can reach this conclusion. But in reality, I'd ask you whether her remarks, at this particular convention, using the term she used........

........is not outrageous? Let's just answer that question. I've heard plenty of folks say "Yeah but he once said something that was even worse! Okay. Now back to the question:

AC's remark. It was appropriate? You wish you had stood on that podium and made that remark?

island911 03-05-2007 02:07 PM

Her whole POINT was to be inappropriate.

sheesh. you guys soooo fell for her tactics.

So what's the counter argument to her "******" remark? ..is it:

"that is so off-base, that its laughable"
or
"Edwards is married so he can't be gay"
or
....?

island911 03-05-2007 02:11 PM

. . . "Edwards is too smarter than a bundle of sticks"

Porsche-O-Phile 03-05-2007 02:29 PM

Pretty much. I think she's a waste of space, personally but the feigned "outrage" over her comment would be best dealt with by simply ignoring her, rather than feeding her tactics.

Big hoopla over nothing.

Superman 03-05-2007 02:37 PM

There is no question in my mind that AC's remarks were deliberately made to shock. We disagree about the part where she's a strategic genius who is caricaturizing other peoples' crass remarks as a way of instilling some objectivism and maturity into the dialogue. Give me a break. AC is a performer. Along the lines of Al Franken, but with substantially less thoughtiness and skill.

Superman 03-05-2007 02:38 PM

A media whore, if you will. It's just as simple as that. She's selling books and appearances. She's not a politician or a political analyst. She's a business that sells entertainment. That's why she fits so nicely on Faux News.

lendaddy 03-05-2007 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by Superman
A media whore, if you will. It's just as simple as that. She's selling books and appearances. She's not a politician or a political analyst. She's a business that sells entertainment. That's why she fits so nicely on Faux News.
You know Sup, if you never actually ask her out you'll certainly never get a date.:)

island911 03-05-2007 02:43 PM

James Carville . . I think she's trying to impress him with what she's learned from him.

Superman 03-05-2007 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
You know Sup, if you never actually ask her out you'll certainly never get a date.:)
Am I that transparent?

dd74 03-05-2007 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by island911
James Carville . . I think she's trying to impress him with what she's learned from him.
Actually, this isn't too strange an assessment. Carville is smart. Carville sells books. Carville is in bed (literally) with The Right - via marriage. Carville may have more tact, contingent on the intellectual level toward which Carville panders, but that's about it as far as a true difference between he and Coulter. Aside, of course, from Coulter having more hair.

dd74 03-05-2007 03:36 PM

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Originally posted by Superman
Am I that transparent?
Just make sure you are when you wear your dress, Tiger. Ann might like things "commando." Grrrr! :D

trap 03-05-2007 03:47 PM

Actually, there are some people who say she is actually a goat sucking vampire called a chupacabra. A few years ago there was a website dedicated to showing the eerie similarities between the two.

Most people posting to the site, however, felt the chupacabra was being maligned.

The site appears to be gone - but there is a drawing of one here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chupacabra

Come to your own conclusions...

island911 03-05-2007 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by dd74
Actually, this isn't too strange an assessment. ...
It's not easy always making strange assessments; just ask Supe. ;)

Seriously, my point was more about how this crap plays. Carville always comes out (er...hope I didn't ofend anyone there) anyway.. Carville always appears when the Clintons get in hot water. He gets everyone tlking about the poor taste of (paraphrasing)"just drag a twenty thru a trailerpark" or whatever. The effect is, the 'overstated' isn't argued for it's degree of (in)accuracy, but rather that it was a crass overstatement. ...leaving on the table the thought that the statement DOES have some accuracy.

jyl 03-05-2007 09:57 PM

"'****** isn't offensive to gays; it has nothing to do with gays," Coulter said on "Hannity and Colmes" Monday night. "It's a schoolyard taunt meaning 'wuss,' and unless you're telling me that John Edwards is gay, it was not applied to a gay person."

So, fint says that "******" refers to gays but is inoffensive, and now Coulter denies that "******" even refers to gays. Getting the wires a little crossed?

widebody911 03-06-2007 06:23 AM

It's not over yet: http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/05/coulter.ads/index.html

kach22i 03-06-2007 06:31 AM

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Originally posted by widebody911
It's not over yet: http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/05/coulter.ads/index.html
The KOS rocks!:)

Racerbvd 03-06-2007 07:03 AM

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Originally posted by jyl
"'****** isn't offensive to gays; it has nothing to do with gays," Coulter said on "Hannity and Colmes" Monday night. "It's a schoolyard taunt meaning 'wuss,' and unless you're telling me that John Edwards is gay, it was not applied to a gay person."

So, fint says that "******" refers to gays but is inoffensive, and now Coulter denies that "******" even refers to gays. Getting the wires a little crossed?

So what, she pissed off some ******, BFD.

island911 03-06-2007 07:46 AM

LOL
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Originally posted by jyl
"'****** isn't offensive to gays; it has nothing to do with gays," Coulter said on "Hannity and Colmes" Monday night. "It's a schoolyard taunt meaning 'wuss,' and unless you're telling me that John Edwards is gay, it was not applied to a gay person."

So, fint says that "******" refers to gays but is inoffensive, and now Coulter denies that "******" even refers to gays. Getting the wires a little crossed?

So then, your argument is "******" is NOT a schoolyard taunt meaning 'wuss' ? ..because fint says it also means 'gay' ?

What are you saying? :cool:

jyl 03-06-2007 08:02 AM

I'm saying for Coulter to now pretend the term "******" "has nothing to do with gays" is like Clinton saying BJs have nothing to do with sex.


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