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Do these managers know you well? Do they respect you?
I think the question on why you're the best fit is a good one. Who came to this conclusion and why? A good leader surrounds himself with the best people available. This leader need not be an expert in each of his managers fields....a common misconception. In fact if the candidate is he/she would likely not make a good leader. These managers need to be both leaders AND team players. Not all are capable of the mix. From the little you write it sounds as if these managers need more distinct areas to manage. Is overlap creating an environment of distrust?
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Mike, how many people have you managed over how long?
What's the org chart look like with these 8/15?
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The job is a VP/GM slot and it could easily be a spring board for a CEO spot in 10 (or less) years (somplace else) if the profitabily is made. Then we are talking large cash.
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True dat Wayno - I looked into the incentives for each group. The thing is a mess. Placed a call to the Board Director of over the weekend. The Board isn't going to be very flexible with changing it. If I could get everyone on the same page with the $$$ then I could begin the slow road to transforming them into a world class gig. Problem is, that won't happen.
The last thing I told the guy was "Looks like you have some smoldering fires burning deep and I don't have any means of putting them out and I can't harvest the energy effectivily." His reply "Thats why you'd get paid the big bucks." Sorry fella, more land means more grass to cut and your given me a heard of goats with bad bowels when what I need to get the job done is a reel mower and a 50hp tractor.
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passed on the offer - the money is stupid good but at the end of the day, I have a Wife and Kids to come home to and the landscape of that company would / could turn me into an 18hour a day knucklehead.
Opportunities (like cars) are always presenting themselves. Using sound judgement is important in these times. Thanks for your insights guys!
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- The division leader prior managed by coercion and fear and it worked with this crowd Is what leads to this: - There are turf wars going on all the time, finger pointing and blame and no accountability -- They all play nice nice during meetings and so forth but afterwards they throw each other under the bus in very creative ways BTDT...
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Sounds like you escaped the grasp of "The Peter Principle"
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In my opinion - and only my opinion - the real management challenge is succeeding in an environment like this. I've had a few of these types of challenges in my career. If you have a proven track record of turning around difficult situations your stock will rise. If you are really good you will make them believe that they are changing and succeeding to benefit themselves. That's where the art of management comes in.
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These things are like cars - there is always one out there that would be real interesting until you get under the hood and find out there is all sorts of work to be done beyond what you thought it needed.
I have been approuched before several times from other companies and declined the offers on the spot. This one made me think twice cuz of the cash but at the end of the day if they are gonna pay big then they are gonna want big. If they would go for a 3 year contract then...
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s'alright. send me in there. I'll straighten 'em out!
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