Neighbor/dog issue

[notfarnow]

Looking at that picture, they could probably double up the bottom horizontal length without it looking "ghetto". Your fence though, so your call.

I had serious troubles with the neighbors behind me; their kids were taking over my yard and eventually my garage. Plus, they are pigs.

I put up a 6 foot high, 140' long fence. I even went to my neighbor next door and asked if I could extend it along his property line. He was glad to block them out too. He calls it the "Great Wall of Jake".

[Dueller]

Originally posted by VaSteve
Not so sure on the electric fence..... a couple of reasons.

It's his problem, why should I spend my money fixing it?
I put my dog out in the yard. I don't want him to get shocked.
There is already mesh on there. He's worried about his little dog getting under. I'm worried about the engineering required to keep from lighting up the entire fence (if the wire touched the mesh) vs. just one ground based wire.

I'm not unreasonable....thanks for all the thougt thus far.

OK...just thought it would be worth $50 for your peace of mind. Hell, recommend he buy it...probably cheaper than a couple a hundred board feet of treated 2x4 he suggested.

If you don't like that idea, just put a bowl of antifreeze over on his side of the fence. Sweet tatsing....dog will lap it up. Kidney failure will set in in a matter of hours.

[notfarnow]

It's not the dog's fault. Bad owner is the issue

[stomachmonkey]

Problem with electric and invisible fences is they don't always work well with dogs who have a high "prey" drive like Beagles.

They go right thru them. Once on the other side good luck getting them back.

[Rick Lee]

Steve, the electric fence isn't going to bother your dog more than once or twice. He'll learn too and good fences make good neighbors, even for dogs.

My folks have a bassett hound, not the smartest breed in the world. And they have two sizeable properties, both unfenced and they spend a lot of time at both of them with the dog. The invisible fence thing has worked very well for them.

A neighbor of ours has a mean (East) German Shepherd and the neoghbors on the other side asked them to build a fence to keep THEIR kids out of the yard and away from the dog. So the they did it and their kids still kept throwing rocks at the fenced-in dog, taunting it, etc. One day their ball went over the fence and they climbed it to retrieve it and of course, Cujo attacked. The kid's parents are actually suing the neigbor now, after he put up the fence at their request, after their kids continued to throw rocks at the dog and after one of their kids climbed the fence to retrieve his ball. Unreal. My mom is a court mediator in our area and unfortunately had to recuse herself from this one, since she knows them both well.

[notfarnow]

Originally posted by stomachmonkey
Problem with electric and invisible fences is they don't always work well with dogs who have a high "prey" drive like Beagles.

They go right thru them. Once on the other side good luck getting them back.

You are 100% correct. We have 2 beagles, and we tested an electric fence at a friend's place before spending the $$$. When they catch a scent they are completely oblivious to the shock.

[MRM]

Good fences make good neighbors. That's a nice looking house and yard, but as Dueller suggested, it's worth a few bucks and a little of your time to do a good deed for a poor dog and maintain good relations with a neighbor who is obviously a dufus, but who you're stuck with for a good long while.

[red-beard]

It seems like obvious renter mentality, something that will never be overcome.

[teenerted1]

you expect that open style fence to keep any dog in/out?

if you knew the next door owner was going to be away for a few years doesn't sound like a short term renter. if you knew he had a beagle should have known to construct a fence with a better lower section.

they are scent hounds and that is just part of the makeup of the breed. the one i had as a kid only stayed in the yard if he was on a stake when we let him out. even a solid fence wouldn't keep him in. just would co-operate with the lab next door, both working from their own side till they both had a hole they could get thru. we would find them in each others yards all the time.

if he is willing to add extra wire don't go with cheap chicken wire. get the good stuff of a higher farm grade wire, maybe 2" spacing on the open section. sink it a few inches below grade. a double wide lower board would look fine, but wont keep a determined digger out. IMO

[teenerted1]

Originally posted by tdatk
I had a Beagle.....once......for about a month......hole diggin,howling at anything little bastid.

Decided to keep his howling ass in the house one night....Bastid ate my wallet.......Gave away a purebread $300. dog, threw in a doghouse, chain, food, papers. Never again.

sounds like "YOU" were the problem. didn't "YOU" research the breed before you purchased? that dogs behavior sound exactly like what the breed is known for.

if you are going to take on the responsibility of having a dog you need to be responsible in knowing what you are getting into. proper research on the breed would have told you what you are getting into.



where did you keep your wallet?

"YOU" need to dog proof your home, just like "YOU" would child proof your house. if you don't train them right they will do what they are naturally prone to do.

it took me 6 months for "ME" to stop my Australian Sheppard puppy from chewing books while I was away for the day. he had separation anxiety. he finally grew out of it, but "I" had to take on the job of keeping him away from the temptation, and to find a way to train him what was expected. he never was interested in chewing shoes because "I" kept them off the floor and in the closet when he was a puppy. he doest take things off the coffee table because "I" didn't leave anything up there for him to be interested in.

he still has herding issues with little children. but that is part of his makeup. (herding dogs HERD!) so "I" have to be mindful when we are around new people and let them know what to expect.

more dogs are sent to the pound cause of people problems. there are no bad dogs only bad owners!

DOGS RULE...PEOPLE DROOL...

[VaSteve]

Originally posted by teenerted1
you expect that open style fence to keep any dog in/out?

if you knew the next door owner was going to be away for a few years doesn't sound like a short term renter. if you knew he had a beagle should have known to construct a fence with a better lower section.

'scuze me? I should have taken HIS dog into my consideration? It keeps my dog in and the neighborhood kids out. These folks moved in after I had the fence built.

And the freaking thing howls all the time... should I have considered thicker glass in my windows?

Jeez.

[teenerted1]

Originally posted by VaSteve
'scuze me? I should have taken HIS dog into my consideration? It keeps my dog in and the neighborhood kids out. These folks moved in after I had the fence built.

And the freaking thing howls all the time... should I have considered thicker glass in my windows?

Jeez.

earlier you didn't say that the fence was there first.

but, if the neighbor did already have a dog. i would think that you would have considered all factors, including HIS dog. and consult your neighbor when constructing on a property line.

if its not on the property line thats a different story.

most people around here, do talk to their neighbors when constructing a property line fence, and its not unheard of for them to go in on the costs, and help out building it too.

i am surprised that a open fence like that works with your dog. doesn't sound like any dog i have encountered. they all want to get to the other side.

they say that it is better to have a solid fence, when constructing a fence for dogs, especially in your own yard so that they don't have the temptation to go astray.



welcome to the world of beagles. if the noise is that big of an issue maybe better windows will help. it will help your energy bill too.

got used to the one we had growing up. only started to bother us when he was getting up in age. he lived to 16 and seemed to make more noise at night. every time i hear one howl now it brings back fond memories. so i cant feel your pain, sorry.

talk to the guy and maybe you can work things out. animosity toward them will just make the issue worse. maybe they don't know how to train a dog? since yours is so well behaved maybe you can help him out. you might be surprised what happens.

[tdatk]

Steve,
Slip on one of these exploding collars on the mutt and be done with it......ha

[VaSteve]

Originally posted by teenerted1
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i am surprised that a open fence like that works with your dog. doesn't sound like any dog i have encountered. they all want to get to the other side.

He's not like any other dog. He's too big to squeeze through that and can't work the latch on the gate!!

[JavaBrewer]

Originally posted by Rick Lee
A neighbor of ours has a mean (East) German Shepherd and the neoghbors on the other side asked them to build a fence to keep THEIR kids out of the yard and away from the dog. So the they did it and their kids still kept throwing rocks at the fenced-in dog, taunting it, etc. One day their ball went over the fence and they climbed it to retrieve it and of course, Cujo attacked. The kid's parents are actually suing the neigbor now, after he put up the fence at their request, after their kids continued to throw rocks at the dog and after one of their kids climbed the fence to retrieve his ball. Unreal. My mom is a court mediator in our area and unfortunately had to recuse herself from this one, since she knows them both well.

In Cali that dog would be pushing daisys and the owners paying through the nose. Dog owners will always be the loser of any *situation*. I love dogs and in the same breath I hate dogs. Kill the neighbor dog and bury it so the body is never found...Ok I'm kidding...sorta...seriously...do Coyote's run your hood? Oh never mind. Just pack and move.