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motion 03-21-2007 08:59 AM

LOLOL!!!

kach22i 03-21-2007 09:01 AM

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Originally posted by motion
What's all the hubbub... you got to change the channel, right? Probably related to the flashes on the show you were watching. You comfirmed yourself that there were flashes on the tape. Sounds like too strong of a coincidence to ignore.
Maybe the ghost did not like the flashes on the TV, and decided to show off.;)

Do ghosts act up for flash camera at all?

CJFusco 03-21-2007 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by LubeMaster77
It would be truly comforting to have a scientifically confirmed existance of ghosts. Beyond faith there is nothing that assures us there is someting beyond the infinity of death.

For me, I hope there are such things.

I assume you've heard examples of EVP? It's close enough to proof for me...

Z-man 03-21-2007 11:28 AM

My take - one of two possibilities:

1. As the sun was setting, some object blocked the light, which cast the original shadow. As the sun moved lower, or as the object moved (possibily in the wind), the shadow turned into the sun refracted through the object, which would be semi-transparent, or something like a stained glass window.

2. A car past your house, and at first blocked the sun, causing the shadow. Then the driver may have put on the headlights -- zenon lights tend to start with a flash.

I would have the Mrs. drive back and forth on the street tonight at around twilight, putting her lights on and off. You may get the same effect, or she may get swallowed up in an energy portal that will transport her into a different dimension. I think it may be a risk worth taking to find the truth...

-Z-man.

madmmac 03-21-2007 11:32 AM

What is the object in front/side of window 2?

I have a call into Fox Muldar.

kach22i 03-21-2007 11:37 AM

I want to look into everything with an open mind. Here are some pictures of the room, which may help.

http://www.martinloganowners.com/for...1&d=1111606647
http://www.martinloganowners.com/for...1&d=1111616541
http://www.martinloganowners.com/for...1&d=1111618376

At the time all the shades in the house were closed, even the one at the top of the stair landing.

It had been a sunny day but had become hazy or overcast by the time twilight came around. It's rained most of today so there has been a change in the weather since then.

kach22i 03-21-2007 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by madmmac
What is the object in front/side of window 2?

I have a call into Fox Muldar.

That's an arm chair, next to it was our cat on one of those tall tree-like stands. She was unphased by the whole event sleeping on the top tier.

M.D. Holloway 03-21-2007 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by CJFusco
I assume you've heard examples of EVP? It's close enough to proof for me...
Electronic Voice Phenomena - phase shift of the in-audible to the audible. Nothing more than wave harmonics. Most forms of EMR do this to some extent. See this with light and other forms of energy. Combine it with a natural transducer and you will have this occur. Nothing magic or supernatural.

You should see the amazing things that happen to waves when you get below sub-micron lithography when trying to build microchips.

madmmac 03-21-2007 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by madmmac
What is the object in front/side of window 2?

I have a call into Fox Muldar.

What is on the other side of the dining room??...windows?

You say she looks over your shoulder which is the dining room and sees something....about the same time you see something on the wall.

kach22i 03-21-2007 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by madmmac
What is on the other side of the dining room??...windows?

You say she looks over your shoulder which is the dining room and sees something....about the same time you see something on the wall.

It moved fast once you thought you saw something.......like a mouse does.

When she saw it, it might of been in the dining room, I saw her eyes dart as it was over the big tube amp which was off at the time. As you can see there is a window over the tube amp. The shade was closed.

Sometimes on partially sunny and windy days the sun reflects off of the light colored brick garage next door, and when a cloud goes in from of the sun it can be like a light turning off at that window. However you know it's a light souce and the room goes darker, its not a shadow crawling across the upper part of the wall like this time.

The other side of the house faces a white aluminum sided house which can act like a solar mirror with the mid morning light.

CJFusco 03-21-2007 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by LubeMaster77
Electronic Voice Phenomena - phase shift of the in-audible to the audible. Nothing more than wave harmonics. Most forms of EMR do this to some extent. See this with light and other forms of energy. Combine it with a natural transducer and you will have this occur. Nothing magic or supernatural.

You should see the amazing things that happen to waves when you get below sub-micron lithography when trying to build microchips.

I would love to hear your explaination as to what is happening when a paranormal investigator holding a tape recorder falls in a dark basement, and a disembodied voice on the tape (the man was alone in the basement) could be heard saying "Are you okay?"

kach22i 03-21-2007 12:24 PM

From the boatdesign thread.

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Originally Posted by Eric W. Sponberg (Post 130183)
I am familiar with the hovercraft company you went to--attended a SNAME section meeting there about a year ago. Interesting stuff, and now for the life of me I cannot remember the name.

As to flash photography or a flash from the TV getting a response from a ghost--ABSOLUTELY! Ghosts seem to use the power of electric and electronic devices to help them illuminate. I don't know if they have a consciousness about this or not, or whether it is merely the energy of an electronic device that is comingled with the energy of the ghost simply by chance that causes them to illuminate--I tend to think the latter.

And it does not take much--as an example, my sister-in-law took the attached photograph of me while on a tour at Christmastime. When we walk around town in our colonial costumes, we have to carry candle lanterns to light the way. In this photo, an energy ribbon is coming out of the lighted candle in my lantern.

Eric

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1174508674.jpg

Eric Coffey 03-21-2007 01:07 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1174511137.jpg

< demonic whisper > GETTTTTTTT OUTTTTTTT < /demonic whisper >

:D

scottmandue 03-21-2007 01:25 PM

What is in the direction of the kitchen? Could a bright light have shown in from that direction?

tabs 03-21-2007 01:39 PM

Once in the Montepelier Inn in VT. I said this place is great your only missing a Ghost, They said we have one. I said can I go look to see where. They said first 2 rooms at the top of the stairs. See the #1 on the room at the left I decided that was a good place to start. I was entering the room really aware going in slow WHEN the door slams into me as I'm entering the room.and I think I heard steps going down the hall..OHHH FK DID THAT SCARE ME...come to think of it, it was at about dusk to...I left quickly leaving a tail of pee behind me..well not the pee part I exagerated that part.

Next day I went up and checked that door to see if my weight or something explainable could have cause it to slam in my face. Nope it was either open or it would have been impossible (sic) to keep open.

The owners told me that an elderly lady who was a bit crazy owned the house and died there in the 20s. Since then they have smelled Lilacs when she was present. I think I might have scared her.

The next day I also sat in room 1 very quietly when a maid came to the door and didn't see me, needless to say I gave her a bit of a fright.

1967 R50/2 03-21-2007 01:41 PM

Once long ago during college, I lived in the BASEMENT APARTMENT of my real estate professors house.

It was summer and he and his family were gone on vacation somewhere

There were only a couple of windows in the apartment which didn't let in much light. One night while going to sleep, there was this massive flash as if someone set of a flash bulb. It lit up the entire room. I immediately sat up...but there was nothing.

Firefly? Nuclear Firefly? Something.

I laid back down and a few minutes later it happened again. This time I got up and put on the lights and walked around. Nothing I could find.

Never did figure out what it was.

In some ways it sounds similar to what you experienced...wierd light where it shouldn't be.

notfarnow 03-21-2007 01:56 PM

True story:

At the end of a wild night a couple years ago, I fell into a time/space continuum portal for a couple hours. Traveled time, saw God and came to with a friend standing over me checking my pulse.

Not nearly as much fun as you'd expect. The "portal" I fell into was also a staircase, so I was pretty bruised, and my wife won't let me touch mushrooms anymore.

red-beard 03-21-2007 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by tabs
Once in the Montepelier Inn in VT. I said this place is great your only missing a Ghost, They said we have one. I said can I go look to see where. They said first 2 rooms at the top of the stairs. See the #1 on the room at the left I decided that was a good place to start. I was entering the room really aware going in slow WHEN the door slams into me as I'm entering the room.and I think I heard steps going down the hall..OHHH FK DID THAT SCARE ME...The owners told me that an elderly lady who was a bit crazy owned the house and died there in the 20s. Since then they have smelled Lilacs when she was present. I think I might have scared her.
Geez, no wonder. You brained the poor thing the first time you meet her.

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Originally posted by tabs
The next day I also sat in room 1 very quietly when a maid came to the door and didn't see me, needless to say I gave her a bit of a fright.
That should surprise no one who has met you.

I'm with Lubey, I hope Ghosts exist. It will give me something to do after I'm dead.

tabs 03-21-2007 02:05 PM

Ball Lightening????

Anyway here is for the abstract theory..Lisa Randell is a Harvard Proffessor in Physics, she has written a book called "Warped Passages" which is about there being more than the 4 Dimensions we are accustomed to, and that Gravity is alink between them etc. After listening to an interview of her on C Rose, I came to the following conclusions or thoughts

We all know that humans exist in 4 dimensions, height, width, space and time. What if unbeknown to us due to our physical limitations, that we exist in more dimensions as well and that the connection to them is our imaginations/thoughts/dreams and our gut level intutions. That when our bodies die in this dimension we carry on in others. This would expalin alot of our Religious, mythological, near death etc experiences.

tabs 03-21-2007 02:09 PM

Now with Shadow People, Ghosts, Demons and whatnot..what if they are beings that exist in another dimension and they be seen etc because of a momentary or otherwise breakdown in the membrane that exists between dimensions.

This would be the science behind the events that otherwise would stand as imagination gone beserk in the eyes of you scientists.

Humans are going a little beyond E=MC2/ with regards to Physics.


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