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techweenie 03-27-2007 11:03 AM

Are we attacking Iran on 4/6?
 
Some folks seem to think so:

<b>Operation Bite: April 6 sneak attack by US forces against Iran planned, Russian military sources warn</b>

Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:37:00

By Webster G. Tarpley (http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_1888.shtml)

WASHINGTON DC, -- The long awaited US military attack on Iran is now on track for the first week of April, specifically for 4 am on April 6, the Good Friday opening of Easter weekend, writes the well-known Russian journalist Andrei Uglanov in the Moscow weekly “Argumenty Nedeli.” Uglanov cites Russian military experts close to the Russian General Staff for his account.

The attack is slated to last for 12 hours, according to Uglanov, from 4 am until 4 pm local time. Friday is the sabbath in Iran. In the course of the attack, code named Operation Bite, about 20 targets are marked for bombing; the list includes uranium enrichment facilities, research centers, and laboratories.

---link to full story---
http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=166&a=1478

Superman 03-27-2007 11:08 AM

Naw. We wouldn't be stupid enough to just haul off and attack a middle eastern country just because of their dictator and his sabre-rettling.

Oh, wait a minute........

on-ramp 03-27-2007 11:09 AM

cool. get your popcorn ready.

the 03-27-2007 11:14 AM

I'd suggest moving it up to the 5th, the 6th isn't a secret anymore.

rammstein 03-27-2007 11:37 AM

Shenanigans!

rdk409 03-27-2007 11:40 AM

I don't see the US starting a war on Easter Weekend. That wouldn't be proper. Now only if the Iranians would just kidnap some westerners in an act of war....oh yea...

So maybe we will just finish the war on Easter.... ;)

Joeaksa 03-27-2007 11:47 AM

Yes we are attacking them and YOU Techie are in the first wave being sent over. Get your buns over to Kuwait and get ready!

Porsche-O-Phile 03-27-2007 11:48 AM

+1 for moving it back a day. That way it won't conflict with my viewing of the Malaysia GP. I don't want to miss practice or qualifying because all the stations are showing them grainy green-on-black pictures and hyping WW3.

Aurel 03-27-2007 12:09 PM

I wrote and sent a book chapter to a professor in Iran. He better hurry his ass reviewing it and send it back to the editor in Germany before his lab gets destroyed :p
Other than that, I hope it is just an April fools joke.

Aurel

widebody911 03-27-2007 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rdk409
I don't see the US starting a war on Easter Weekend. That wouldn't be proper.
When's Ramadan this year?

rdk409 03-27-2007 12:20 PM

I'm not sure, didn't it already come and go though?

Flatbutt1 03-27-2007 12:25 PM

You know..the current administration is just incompetent enough to have let something like this leak. Do it on the 8th when everyone says'nah they ain't comin' and everyone has gone home.

Porsche-O-Phile 03-27-2007 01:16 PM

It'd be nice to have a president/administration that would have enough balls to tell the Israelis "you got a problem with 'em, you go attack 'em and stop trying to coerce us into fighting your battles for you".

stomachmonkey 03-27-2007 01:19 PM

"We attack at noon, they think it's time for lunch"

George Carlin

cmccuist 03-27-2007 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Porsche-O-Phile
It'd be nice to have a president/administration that would have enough balls to tell the Israelis "you got a problem with 'em, you go attack 'em and stop trying to coerce us into fighting your battles for you".
+1 Isn't that what the Mossad is for? You'd think with all the satellite systems, surveillance and peope shooting off their mouths about Iranian nukes, the Israelis should know right where to covertly drop a few bombs.

They could even make it look like an accident. And if they got their hands dirty so what? It's not like anyone's going to hate on them any more than they already do. What's the worse that could happen - a UN security council resolution?

Why is it always the US, the UK and the Aussies doing all the heavy lifting?

Superman 03-27-2007 02:32 PM

I suspect the Israelis are itching to clobber Iran. But I'm guessing that Dubya is telling them that he'd appreciate it if they'd step down so HE can launch the attack.

on-ramp 03-27-2007 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cmccuist


Why is it always the US, the UK and the Aussies doing all the heavy lifting?

because they were the ones crazy enough to start the war and support the war in the first place.

your really blame other nations for not getting involved? It's not worth it. it's a big mess that should never have happened.

island_dude 03-27-2007 02:53 PM

Tech, I hope that this it totally wrong. My wife and daughter will be there then.

MRM 03-27-2007 03:48 PM

The odds of this April Fool being true are about the same as the tale of a Porsche dealer trying a buy one, get one free 911 sale.

techweenie 03-27-2007 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MRM
The odds of this April Fool being true are about the same as the tale of a Porsche dealer trying a buy one, get one free 911 sale.
I presume you know that a Porsche dealer did exactly that.

I read it on the Internets. It has to be true.

techweenie 03-27-2007 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by island_dude
Tech, I hope that this it totally wrong. My wife and daughter will be there then.
I assume -- and hope -- that it's totally wrong. But what does it say about this administration that we can't be sure?

dd74 03-27-2007 04:25 PM

Maybe it's not a 4/1 joke. I heard a report the U.S. military is conducting massive war games in the region right now. Maybe we're just trying to first scare them before we next destroy them.

Joeaksa 03-27-2007 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by techweenie
But what does it say about this administration that we can't be sure?
But... But... But!!?? Broken record over and over again.

I farted a few minutes ago and it was Pres Bush's (and his admin) fault. Everything is his fault, even the fact that my neighbour lost a tree in a wind storm earlier today is Bush's fault if one listens to nay sayers like you!

Feel better?

M.D. Holloway 03-27-2007 04:30 PM

ya right! And Porsche is gonna buy 30% of Volkswagon...

Rearden 03-27-2007 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by techweenie
I assume -- and hope -- that it's totally wrong. But what does it say about this administration that we can't be sure?
It will be fun to watch liberals react during the next Democratic administration. When a terrorist act occurs, for example, they'll probably start blaming terrorists. Or when the stock market zooms up, they'll probably give some credit to the administration's policies.

Superman 03-27-2007 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joeaksa
But... But... But!!?? Broken record over and over again.

I farted a few minutes ago and it was Pres Bush's (and his admin) fault. Everything is his fault, even the fact that my neighbour lost a tree in a wind storm earlier today is Bush's fault if one listens to nay sayers like you!

Feel better?

Broken record is right. Are you suggesting the Iran attack decision is someone else's? Are you aware who made the Iraq decision. If we are ever going to start believing that conservatives take responsibility, we might first need to be removed from your excuses for a while.

Somebody's going to take responsibility for the mess. That same person would have happily accepted the credit, had things gone well. Responsibility, Joe.

Joeaksa 03-27-2007 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Superman
Broken record is right. Are you suggesting the Iran attack decision is someone else's? Are you aware who made the Iraq decision. If we are ever going to start believing that conservatives take responsibility, we might first need to be removed from your excuses for a while.

Somebody's going to take responsibility for the mess. That same person would have happily accepted the credit, had things gone well. Responsibility, Joe.

Supe,

I am suggestion that we all take responsibility for our future and stop blaming ANYONE who is in the White House and work towards the future.

You guys keep pointing the finger at Pres Bush when its the entire political machine that is the problem. None of them are any good and the sooner that you guys stop slathering over things in DC the better.

Joe

PS, if there is an attack on Iran, the decision will be made for us... by Iran. They have already taken the first step by siezing the Brit Navy group, now lets see what their next move will be. Do you guys ever look ahead???

Porsche-O-Phile 03-27-2007 05:39 PM

No, Iran's next move wouldn't be against us or Britain, it would be against Israel in an attempt to undermine western support for Israel. At least that's what I'd suspect. They can do a lot of damage to Israel and a fair amount to U.S. forces in Iraq. I'd expect to see them attacking oil installations in Iraq too (note to self: go long on oil futures when trading opens tomorrow, 'cause prices are gonna' go through the roof).

Joeaksa 03-27-2007 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Porsche-O-Phile
No, Iran's next move wouldn't be against us or Britain, it would be against Israel in an attempt to undermine western support for Israel. At least that's what I'd suspect. They can do a lot of damage to Israel and a fair amount to U.S. forces in Iraq. I'd expect to see them attacking oil installations in Iraq too (note to self: go long on oil futures when trading opens tomorrow, 'cause prices are gonna' go through the roof).
Doubt that they would go after Israel. They know that the Israeli's would slap them silly and they have at least 200 nukes, ready and waiting. The only way to do this would be to knock Israel out completely, and that would mean nukes, and they will not do this due to the holy areas for Islam in the area.

The minute they attack any US Forces then the gloves are off, and attacking anything in the open in Iraq is the same thing.

Agree with you on the oil prices, its already going up.

juanbenae 03-27-2007 05:47 PM

if this administration screws up my track days on 4/9 & 4/16 i will cease my support of them.

I mean it this time.

techweenie 03-27-2007 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rearden
It will be fun to watch liberals react during the next Democratic administration. When a terrorist act occurs, for example, they'll probably start blaming terrorists. Or when the stock market zooms up, they'll probably give some credit to the administration's policies.
Actually, Democrats so far have done a much better job of fending off or foiling terrorist attacks. But after this administration is through multiplying and strengthening America's enemies around the world, it'll be a bit harder.

Joeaksa 03-27-2007 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by techweenie
Actually, Democrats so far have done a much better job of fending off or foiling terrorist attacks. But after this administration is through multiplying and strengthening America's enemies around the world, it'll be a bit harder.
Wish I had some of the drugs you are doing. Have you seen any of the nationwide surveys of which party the population of the US feels will take care of our country in the event of another terrorist event?

Where do you get these illusions? The Dems lay down and spread their cheeks whenever something happens... its the Republicans who kick a$$ when needed.

Porsche-O-Phile 03-27-2007 06:23 PM

I dunno. If your choices are go up against the US - I mean REALLY go up against the US to the point they're going to drop the hammer on you, or the Brits, or the Israelis - I bet they still go after Israel. They'll turn it into a Muslim-versus-Jew thing and overnight they get Syria, Jordan, etc. on their side lobbing missiles into the Gaza strip - or worse.

Another scenario - if Syria blasts across the border blitzkreig style, you think Israel would ever use a nuke against "their" own territory? I doubt it. Not even tactical ones (assuming they have 'em, which they might). They'd sure bomb hell out of the place but I doubt they'd resort to nukes in that case. Maybe a "get our or we nuke your capital" thing. Could get real ugly real fast though.

Feel bad for the Iraq/Afghan troops - they'll take the immediate heat from Iran before (if it comes to that) the rest of the west and/or NATO comes and wipes them off the map in retaliation.

juanbenae 03-27-2007 06:33 PM

i heard something the other day that made me consider. this administration has divided our allies, and united our enemies.

i thought that pretty much summed thing up.

hytem 03-27-2007 07:31 PM

April fools. Ain't gonna happen.

Now, Israel doing it is much more plausible... they don't f..k around if they feel threatened.

rhjames 03-27-2007 07:41 PM

Mmmmm.....

since when have the conservatives ever taken responsibility for their actions.....Uh, can you say $2B a month going to the Iraq mess, with no end in sight. No? How about the bridge thing in Alaska?

Why does Bush get so much grief? I can't believe you asked....It should be very evident this far into the game.

Will we attack Iran? Doubtful......BUT, after this week, the Brit's might.

Who cares if Iran gets Nukes? Nobody's still pissing about Pakistan or India. What's another pile of crap, in a pile of crap?


Of course, most of you should feel comfortable knowing that the USA can track yellow cake anywhere, anytime.


It's no big deal.http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/rlwhore.gif


regards---rhjameshttp://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/pc2.gif

techweenie 03-27-2007 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rhjames
Mmmmm.....

since when have the conservatives ever taken responsibility for their actions.....Uh, can you say $2B a month going to the Iraq mess, with no end in sight. No? How about the bridge thing in Alaska?

Why does Bush get so much grief? I can't believe you asked....It should be very evident this far into the game.

Will we attack Iran? Doubtful......BUT, after this week, the Brit's might.

Who cares if Iran gets Nukes? Nobody's still pissing about Pakistan or India. What's another pile of crap, in a pile of crap?


Of course, most of you should feel comfortable knowing that the USA can track yellow cake anywhere, anytime.


1. Conservatives take responsibility for their actions. It's the Neoconservatives who do not take responsibility for anything, and use the 'big lie' technique to answer ciritcs. Neocons have no regard for budgets or fiscal responsibility.

2. Bush is the worst president this country has ever had, running the least ethical and open administration in history -- of course after promising the opposite.

3. Many of the Neocons in the administration would gladly back any excuse -- including a false flag action -- to start bombing Iran.

4. Iran was always a bigger threat than Iraq, but never as big a threat as Dubya made North Korea by marginalizing and threatening them. Pakistan and the uncontrolled nukes in the former USSR are bigger threats. Iran is still years from having the ability to make a nuclear weapon and who knows if they could ever deliver it. But the neocons are the greatest fearmongers in history, and have so many on this BBS cowering under their beds, it's pathetic. America used to be a place where we were realistic about threats, not afraid of our own shadows. But fearful people are easily controlled.

5. As I'm sure you know (but many others don't seem to), yellowcake isn't a weapon.

rhjames 03-27-2007 08:14 PM

sorry Tech.....I didn't think I needed to get into the mundane of conservative distinctions. There is plenty of blame for the fiscally destructive actions of the re-Bubbs in Congress of late.

While yellow cake is not a weapon, it can become one. this is what I meant by knowing where it is, and what's being done with it...and then, dealing with it.

Like I said, a pile of crap, in a pile of crap.....

And yes, I have a long history of Bush and his ineptitudes in my home state of Texas, but I think Donald Trump out it quite well:

"Bush is the worst president this country has ever had."http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/sleep.gif

I could not have said it better, except to use the Donald's favorite saying:

"You're fired!":D


regards---rhjameshttp://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/pc2.gif

nostatic 03-27-2007 08:24 PM

doesn't say what year...

speeder 03-27-2007 08:33 PM

Can we just impeach these cogsuckers already? What are people waiting for, WW3? $10.00 @ gallon gas and $100 for a bag of groceries? This is the worst looting I've ever seen. Does anyone even remember the country (and world) that these jackholes inherited?


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