What's going on at VA Tech?
 

CNN reporting 20 dead from shootings around the VA Tech campus.

Sounds pretty bad. Just what CNN and Fox need - another big story to fill their programming. And this will be another call for more gun control, which wouldn't have made a difference in most crimes committed with guns.

CNN now reporting at least 22 dead, including the shooter, at least 21 wounded. Started at 7:15 this AM.

Interesting, they have a guy handcuffed.

The shooter clearly didn't read the sign about the campus being a gun-free zone. :rolleyes:

I guess your TRYING to be funny!

No, I'm being sarcastic. I'm showing exactly what those signs do: they create a large population of people known to be unarmed. Easy pickin's for those who choose not to follow the signs.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,264896,00.html

This is a tragedy to be sure. The police couldn't get there in time to prevent 21 deaths. Just one other person with a gun on the campus could have stopped this short.

Different reports

1 says the shooter is in custody to be charged with capital murder

1 says he is dead

+1

Who would you rather fight Wladimir Klitschko, or Pee Wee Herman?

Interesting that you say this, because it's exactly what I at first thought: ban guns. Take them all away, etc.

But then I calmed down and, as sad as this is, concluded it is an isolated incident, and it's the person shooting the gun, not the gun, that has caused this tragedy.

But don't think this won't show up in a Hillary/Obama sound byte today.

The reports also state that one person was killed in their dorm at one end of campus, and the other 20 were killed in class at the other end.

Two gunmen?

Anyone who does this in VA and doesn't get killed in the process is still pretty much on a suicide mission, albeit a much slower process. VA means serious business about capital murder and if they caught the guy, rest assured, he will be executed and much sooner than had it happened in TX or FL too.

Hasty journalism. The discussion on charges for murder pertain to the guy that shot someone last fall...(I had to read it 6 times to be sure).

With the web and 24/7 news, they chuck anythhing up there and revise it later.

We will see what the result will be. I do know that those students were "lawfully" unarmed. They obeyed the rules, making easier prey for the predator.

Absolute tragedy. I'm bracing myself for the political fallout though. This is just more ammunition (pun intended) for the anti-gun crowd.

Guns don't kill people. People kill people.

Sadly, VA is becoming more of a blue state every day. While the state gov't. has pretty much squelched all local attempts at gun control. I feel like it could be the Dutch boy with his thumb in the dike after this one.

FOX reports 32 dead, 21 injured. In some of the cell phone footage you can hear the gunshots.

Wife declared today that she is going to get her CHL

Other than Rick, who I know is always carrying, do the rest of you?

I'm not sure I would want my kids to go to college where classmates are packing heat. This isn't the old west, the ME or Mogadishu. This is a premeditated massacre... people carrying wouldn't have prevented the entirety of this.

Yeah, he had time to aim between each one. Chilling.

Right away, these moronic reporters asking what kind of "assault weapon" did the gunman have.
No sense jumping to conclusions, huh??:mad:

I actually won't say if I "carry" or not, even despite what I think of guns. I'll only say guns seem to have become a necessary evil - like gasoline.

The gunman evidentially lined people up, asking about his girlfriend's whereabouts. Then he shot them.

On kid who got shot said, An Asian Male came into the clas room and started shooting...probably a gun in each hand blazing away. They said he left and tried to come back in, and theat he and another student barricaded the door so he couldn't renter, and the Asian Male shot through the door.

Hollywood is going to be on this like stink on *****...a movie of the week...

If you're the parents of a monster like this...what do you do knowing that you produced such an animal?

Take a look at yourself in the mirror.

Where ever I can. Presently dis-armed at work.

Well, the gunman did "assault" people with a weapon. And I'd have to wonder, had I heard nothing else, how one guy can do so much damage with a 9mm handgun. I'd have figured a rifle too.

Steve,
I bought my first handgun after I saw a kid get shot and killed a few feet in front of me in Pittsburgh. I was 21 then, a seasoned shooter and spent a lot of time in bad parts of town with a lot of cash in my pocket after my band had gotten paid for our gigs. But no law in the world prevents nuts from shooting up public places and one CCW'er can, if not cut the bloodshed short, at least have a chance of fending for himself instead of going to the slaughter while the police try to figure out what's going on.

BTW, I am unarmed while in DC, but that may change soon.

We keep'm around awhile, provides good azz for the new arrivals...

AP now reporting 31 killed this morning. How sad. They're just kids in college. I feel so bad for their families, their friends at school. It's insane. It's not about guns. I don't give a fuch about that and those who make it political just suck. How does someone just feel he has the right to mow people down like this, to take life away like this?

In Michigan, a concealed weapons permit doesn't allow you to carry a weapon in a school, church, bar, sporting event, event where more than a certain number of people will be attending, etc... The only CCW without restrictions is for current/retired LEOs.

The gunman most have suffered from a severe personality disorder, possibly psychotic and under the influence of drugs.

How in the h#ll is someone capable of executing such a grotesque dead ??

Incredibly sad, I can't even imagine what the parents and loved ones are going through...

Guns don't kill people, people kill people. True, however...if this loon had a hammer, or a couple knives, I doubt he would have succeeded in killing/injuring this many people. The sad fact is that anyone can get a gun and there are too many around to start making them illegal. There will always be crazy sick people out to harm others. IMO guns make events like this all too easy. It's one thing to kill with a knife (takes guts and some degree of effort) but a gun removes all the personal contact.

What if he had used an SUV?

Don't even need an SUV. Didn't that old man who mowed down 13 pedestrians in Santa Monica a few years ago do it with a sedan? If you can't prevent accidents like that, I don't know how you can stop young, determined madmen from suicide missions.

Gun apologists :rolleyes:

Anything, including a car, a knive, or a pencil can be used to kill. It happens that these devices are not designed primarily for killing so while able to do so in the right setting are not that effective. A gun on the other hand...

Lets get this straight. I am NOT rallying behind the idots yelling "Ban guns". I am simply pointing out a fact that guns add complexity to our private lives. There you go.

Edited to include NOT DOH!

Or a bomb made out of household chemicals?