Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Miscellaneous and Off Topic Forums > Off Topic Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 1 votes, 1.00 average.
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
canna change law physics
 
red-beard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Houston, Tejas
Posts: 43,366
Garage
New info - VA Shooter S. Korean exchange student

Fox is reporting this

EDIT - Fox is now reporting he is South Korean - EDIT

__________________
James
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the engineer adjusts the sails.- William Arthur Ward (1921-1994)
Red-beard for President, 2020

Last edited by nostatic; 04-17-2007 at 08:07 PM..
Old 04-16-2007, 05:11 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Virginia Rocks!
 
VaSteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Just outside the beltway
Posts: 8,497
Not surprising... a TON of VT students are foreign exchange. It's an odd mix, lost of international students in a mostly white goodoleboy town.
__________________
Rosewood 1983 911 SC Targa | Black 1990 944 S2 | White 1980 BMW R65 | Past: Crystal 1986 944 na
Guards Red is for the Unoriginal
Old 04-16-2007, 05:57 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
canna change law physics
 
red-beard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Houston, Tejas
Posts: 43,366
Garage
Yes, but a foreign exchange student isn't eligble to buy a gun at a gun shop.
__________________
James
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the engineer adjusts the sails.- William Arthur Ward (1921-1994)
Red-beard for President, 2020
Old 04-16-2007, 06:00 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Virginia Rocks!
 
VaSteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Just outside the beltway
Posts: 8,497
Ok, so what's your point?

You don't have to be a citizen to kill people:

Quote:
—Nov. 1, 1991: Gang Lu, 28, a graduate student in physics from China, reportedly upset because he was passed over for an academic honor, opens fire in two buildings on the University of Iowa campus. Five University of Iowa employees killed, including four members of the physics department, two other people are wounded. The student fatally shoots himself.
__________________
Rosewood 1983 911 SC Targa | Black 1990 944 S2 | White 1980 BMW R65 | Past: Crystal 1986 944 na
Guards Red is for the Unoriginal
Old 04-16-2007, 06:03 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
drag racing the short bus
 
dd74's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Location, Location...
Posts: 21,983
Doesn't matter if the student's foreign or not. It seems he suffered "social" problems and had g/f trouble. Guns are the easy part.
__________________
The Terror of Tiny Town
Old 04-16-2007, 06:05 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Dept store Quartermaster
 
lendaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: I'm right here Tati
Posts: 19,858
Quote:
Originally posted by dd74
Doesn't matter if the student's foreign or not. It seems he suffered "social" problems and had g/f trouble. Guns are the easy part.
???

__________________
Cornpoppin' Pony Soldier
Old 04-16-2007, 06:06 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
MRM MRM is offline
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Palm Beach, Florida, USA
Posts: 7,713
So what? The Columbine kids were white upper class. Your point is?
__________________
MRM 1994 Carrera
Old 04-16-2007, 06:06 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
canna change law physics
 
red-beard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Houston, Tejas
Posts: 43,366
Garage
Quote:
Originally posted by VaSteve
Ok, so what's your point?

You don't have to be a citizen to kill people:
You need to have a certain resident status to be able to legally purchase a firearm.
__________________
James
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the engineer adjusts the sails.- William Arthur Ward (1921-1994)
Red-beard for President, 2020
Old 04-16-2007, 06:09 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Virginia Rocks!
 
VaSteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Just outside the beltway
Posts: 8,497
Quote:
Originally posted by red-beard
You need to have a certain resident status to be able to legally purchase a firearm.
How many "legally purchased" weapons are used in mass murder sprees? And if if so, if you're planning on not making it out of there alive...what do you care if you broke the law when procuring the weapon. You're trying to make some kind of point, but between this thread and the other, damned if I know what it is
__________________
Rosewood 1983 911 SC Targa | Black 1990 944 S2 | White 1980 BMW R65 | Past: Crystal 1986 944 na
Guards Red is for the Unoriginal
Old 04-16-2007, 06:12 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
canna change law physics
 
red-beard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Houston, Tejas
Posts: 43,366
Garage
We have passed law after law after law and it doesn't stop someone like this wacko. That is my point. Sometimes, the only way to stop force is with force. The VA campus is a self defense free zone. Known, or unknown to the shooter, the policy helped him kill more.
__________________
James
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the engineer adjusts the sails.- William Arthur Ward (1921-1994)
Red-beard for President, 2020
Old 04-16-2007, 06:16 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Virginia Rocks!
 
VaSteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Just outside the beltway
Posts: 8,497
Statistically, most of these rampages are not stopped by the police OR anyone else. They are stopped by the whacko's themselves.

The campus is a weapons free zone, but hardly a "shoot me, I'm defenseless zone". Many of the kids today defended themselves with the best tool available...their brains. The barricaded themselves in, played dead, etc.

You can't effectively plan for this type of event once it has begun...
__________________
Rosewood 1983 911 SC Targa | Black 1990 944 S2 | White 1980 BMW R65 | Past: Crystal 1986 944 na
Guards Red is for the Unoriginal
Old 04-16-2007, 06:24 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
canna change law physics
 
red-beard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Houston, Tejas
Posts: 43,366
Garage
Very true, which is why you must be prepared and vigilent ahead of time. Removing self defense tools of law abiding citizens did not help.
__________________
James
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the engineer adjusts the sails.- William Arthur Ward (1921-1994)
Red-beard for President, 2020
Old 04-16-2007, 06:38 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
 
Control Group
 
Tobra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Carmichael, CA
Posts: 53,593
Garage
Quote:
Originally posted by VaSteve
How many "legally purchased" weapons are used in mass murder sprees? And if if so, if you're planning on not making it out of there alive...what do you care if you broke the law when procuring the weapon. You're trying to make some kind of point, but between this thread and the other, damned if I know what it is
Actually, a surprising number are legally aquired. I remember a case in Stockton that happened while I was going to school in Oregon. Guy bought all his weapons in OR, jumped I-5 south and shot a bunch of kids.

Pretty sure the McDonalds deal in San Diego was with a legal weapon too. I remember that one because the guy was disgruntled because he was turned down for a job, and my good friend Bruce was the one he told him no. Luby's Cafeteria Massacre in Texas was with legal guns also, as I recall.

You can't plan for it once it has begun, that is reacting. Planning happens before something goes down.
__________________
She was the kindest person I ever met
Old 04-16-2007, 08:34 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Stay away from my Member
 
campbellcj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Agoura, CA
Posts: 5,773
Actually, planning usually happens AFTER something has gone down. Hindsight is 20/20, or certainly better than foresight in almost every case.

Judging from what I heard on the radio today, I'd say that the campus security staff and local PD could have done much better.
__________________
Chris C.
1973 914 "R" (914-6) | track toy
2009 911 Turbo 6-speed (997.1TT) | street weapon
2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance | daily driver
2001 F150 Supercrew 4x4 | hauler
Old 04-16-2007, 08:54 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Zef Zef is offline
THE IRONMAN
 
Zef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Montreal
Posts: 3,642
Garage
Quote:
Originally posted by red-beard
You need to have a certain resident status to be able to legally purchase a firearm.
Go to a low class bar...and you can buy a gun...Gun shops are not the only place to buy that...!
__________________
1984 911 CARRERA RUBY RED TARGA
SW CHIPPED-BURSCH CATBYPASS
MONTY FREE FLOW EXHAUST

<IN GAS WE TRUST>
Old 04-17-2007, 02:17 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
durn for'ner
 
livi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: South of Sweden
Posts: 17,090
I was under the ignorant impression that anyone could by a gun on the next corner (illegally) in the US ?

Reasonably connected that is of course probably true in Sweden or any other country too.. unfortunately.
__________________
Markus
Resident Fluffer

Carrera '85
Old 04-17-2007, 02:23 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
durn for'ner
 
livi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: South of Sweden
Posts: 17,090
I suppose you guys get that a lot - particularly from wide-eyed durn forners whose bulk of information comes from watching American B-movies on the tele.
__________________
Markus
Resident Fluffer

Carrera '85
Old 04-17-2007, 03:15 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
canna change law physics
 
red-beard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Houston, Tejas
Posts: 43,366
Garage
Yes. And usually we don't have "Diehard" like gun battles in the streets.
__________________
James
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the engineer adjusts the sails.- William Arthur Ward (1921-1994)
Red-beard for President, 2020
Old 04-17-2007, 03:19 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
canna change law physics
 
red-beard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Houston, Tejas
Posts: 43,366
Garage
Yes. And usually we don't have "Diehard" like gun battles in the streets. I'd say that life here, and the police, are not like CSI or any of those shows, but I don't watch those shows...
__________________
James
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the engineer adjusts the sails.- William Arthur Ward (1921-1994)
Red-beard for President, 2020
Old 04-17-2007, 03:20 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Free minder
 
Aurel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Middlessex county, MA
Posts: 9,398
Garage
Once again, what this shooting demonstrates to me is that there is not such a terrorist threat on the USA as the mass media would want us to beleive. Why? Because any muslim radical could have done what this chinese guy did. Actually, it could have happened simultaneously in several campuses. But it did not. Why? Because homeland security is doing such a fine job? I don`t think so. You can`t do anything against nutcases like that who are willing to die, especially in a country where firearms are so easy to obtain.

Aurel

__________________
1978 SC Targa, DC15 cams, 9.3:1 cr, backdated heat, sport exhaust https://1978sctarga.car.blog/
2014 Cayenne platinum edition
2008 Benz C300 (wife’s)
2010 Honda Civic LX (daughter’s)
Old 04-17-2007, 06:09 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:22 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.