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New info - VA Shooter S. Korean exchange student
Fox is reporting this
EDIT - Fox is now reporting he is South Korean - EDIT
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Not surprising... a TON of VT students are foreign exchange. It's an odd mix, lost of international students in a mostly white goodoleboy town.
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Yes, but a foreign exchange student isn't eligble to buy a gun at a gun shop.
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Ok, so what's your point?
You don't have to be a citizen to kill people: Quote:
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Doesn't matter if the student's foreign or not. It seems he suffered "social" problems and had g/f trouble. Guns are the easy part.
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So what? The Columbine kids were white upper class. Your point is?
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We have passed law after law after law and it doesn't stop someone like this wacko. That is my point. Sometimes, the only way to stop force is with force. The VA campus is a self defense free zone. Known, or unknown to the shooter, the policy helped him kill more.
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Statistically, most of these rampages are not stopped by the police OR anyone else. They are stopped by the whacko's themselves.
The campus is a weapons free zone, but hardly a "shoot me, I'm defenseless zone". Many of the kids today defended themselves with the best tool available...their brains. The barricaded themselves in, played dead, etc. You can't effectively plan for this type of event once it has begun...
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Very true, which is why you must be prepared and vigilent ahead of time. Removing self defense tools of law abiding citizens did not help.
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Pretty sure the McDonalds deal in San Diego was with a legal weapon too. I remember that one because the guy was disgruntled because he was turned down for a job, and my good friend Bruce was the one he told him no. Luby's Cafeteria Massacre in Texas was with legal guns also, as I recall. You can't plan for it once it has begun, that is reacting. Planning happens before something goes down.
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Actually, planning usually happens AFTER something has gone down. Hindsight is 20/20, or certainly better than foresight in almost every case.
Judging from what I heard on the radio today, I'd say that the campus security staff and local PD could have done much better.
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I was under the ignorant impression that anyone could by a gun on the next corner (illegally) in the US ?
Reasonably connected that is of course probably true in Sweden or any other country too.. unfortunately.
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I suppose you guys get that a lot - particularly from wide-eyed durn forners whose bulk of information comes from watching American B-movies on the tele.
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Yes. And usually we don't have "Diehard" like gun battles in the streets.
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Yes. And usually we don't have "Diehard" like gun battles in the streets. I'd say that life here, and the police, are not like CSI or any of those shows, but I don't watch those shows...
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Once again, what this shooting demonstrates to me is that there is not such a terrorist threat on the USA as the mass media would want us to beleive. Why? Because any muslim radical could have done what this chinese guy did. Actually, it could have happened simultaneously in several campuses. But it did not. Why? Because homeland security is doing such a fine job? I don`t think so. You can`t do anything against nutcases like that who are willing to die, especially in a country where firearms are so easy to obtain.
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