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Re: Re: Probability Challenge - Can You Solve It?
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Re: Probability Challenge - Can You Solve It?
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Re: Re: Re: Probability Challenge - Can You Solve It?
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Door not selected - 2/3 probability Problem re-solved
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Hold on!
"Probability Challenge - Can You Solve It?" The Answer is... NO.
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OK, I have been thinking about this way to much and I think that the actual answer to the problem is that you can’t tell whether the contestant can increase the probability of picking the car by changing doors without more information.
You see, Amail and I were both correct, but it depends upon circumstances. Read Amail’s explanation of the deck of cards: Quote:
He is absolutely correct of course. I have a 1 in 52 chance of picking the Ace first shot. But if he has gone through and selectively eliminated cards then there is a far greater probability that he will end up with the Ace of Spades. In this instance it will considerably increase my chances of holding the Ace if I exchange cards with Amail. Now consider an alternative scenario with the same deck – read carefully and identify the obvious difference; Amail has the same deck of cards, and asks me to pull out the ace of spades, without looking. I choose my card. Amail then, without looking at them before hand, turns over 50 of the remaining 51 cards and does not reveal the ace. Now he holds one card that was left from the 51, and I hold the one card I originally picked. He then asks if I'd like to keep my card or take his instead. In this instance there is equal probability of either myself of Amail holding the Ace. So without knowing whether or not the elimination of the cards, or elimination of the door in the original question, was chance or selection it is impossible to say whether or not the probability of picking the car would increase with changing doors
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Two doors left, the choice is now 50:50. You removed one door, so its out of the equation.
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Monty knows which door the car is behind. Watch closely, he signals to the curtain - depending upon how hot the women is depends on if she gets the car or not. He car is on a movable stage which he directs will go to which curtain after her final selection is made. If she is hot, she wins and Monty gets a kiss and a hug - now watch clearfully - he also wispers something in her ear - "See me after the show for more details!" Que porn music...
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Great. So that means all of us (as guys) are pretty much guaranteed (meaning 100%) of not winning the car.
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At that price do you want to win?
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So this all pretzeled up logic comes in to play in Deal or No Deal. Ever watch that show? Half the fun for me is trying to guess what the "banker" will decide to offer for the contestant's case based on the cases that aren't yet open. I can't even come close to guessing with any consitency.
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Amail,
Its probability of expected returns. You have one briefcase with 1,000,000 and 1 with a dollar, the banker is going to offer $500,000. Or if ten briefcases and ten different dollar amounts its 0.1 times $1 +0.1 times $2+ etc.
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