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				Who invented it - FIRST?
			 
			The Airplane: John Stringfellow (1848), Sir Hiram Maxim (1893), and Samuel Pierpoint Langley(1898?) http://oldenginehouse.users.btopenworld.com/flight.htm Gustave Whitehead http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustave_Whitehead Quote: 
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 The Hovercraft: Christopher Cockerell http://www.hovercraft-museum.org/cockerell.html Melville Whitnel Beardsley: http://www.geneabase.com/ACV/acv.htm Walter A. Crowley: http://www.historylink.org/essays/output.cfm?file_id=7987 Charles J. Fletcher http://www.njinvent.org/1993/inductees_1993/fletcher.html Quote: 
 Vladimir Levlov http://milparade.udm.ru/32/062.htm Quote: 
    Sir John Isaac Thornycroft http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hovercraft Quote: 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hovercraft DI Toivo J. Kaario Quote: 
 
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			As for the airplane, there have been several rival claims for first powered flight.  There was a guy in Australia who made a similar claim.  Recognition for the first powered flight took a while and was subject to very intense investigation at the time.  It took years before the Wright Brothers were universally recognized.  There is still some lingering traces of that investigation.  Europe recognized the Wright Brothers well before the US, and their Flyer was exhibited in Europe for many years before it was displayed at the Smithsonian.  Although it is one of the prize exhibits there, the Wright family refused for many years to allow it to be displayed t the Smithsonian because of hard feelings over their early refusal to recognize the Wright Brothers' claim.  Even today the Flyer is merely on loan to the Smithsonian, and could be sent back to Europe upon request.   Anyway, the competing claims have been evaluated closely but the Wright Brothers' claim has stood the test of time. The key appears to be that the Wright brothers were the only ones to have a completely powered flight, taking off from land, showing actual climbing and distance from the propulsion of the engine rather than any gliding. My understanding is that the competing claims all had some element of gliding or non-powered flight that assisted the powered flight. That's my understanding of the debate, I wasn't there, so I can't say for sure. 
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			"Since none of Whitehead's flights were well recorded and no photographs remain, it is very difficult to substantiate many of these reports." lead to... 
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			bit of a sidetrack but I met the first man to build an airplane in Cuba and saw his original plans. Interesting drawings but alzheimers had him and he couldn't explain anything about it to me. Professional guitarist in Cuba also but that too was gone. maybe I could get a copy of the drawings from his family one day
		 
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 At least we all know who invented the radio and light bulb   
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			Not so fast, at least where the radio is concerned.  The first Radio voice Broadcast was accomplished by R.A. Fessenden on Christmas eve, 1906, but Marconi, et. al. are generally give the credit for the invention of the radio.
		 
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			Tesla invented the radio and patented it first, which Marconi stole. As for flight, anybody remember DaVinci? 
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			History is written by the victor. And inventions are built by those who can afford to patent them. Not by those who actually built it first. 
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 Who (or what) really was first to flight.?   Seriously, anyone with a good grasp on history of flight will see that the Wrights were far far ahead, in so many technical aspects of powered human flight. (while the others were out with 'you got like 3 feet of air'  ) 
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			Back on 2/27/07 I had an idea for a new type of fan or propeller blade (for a hovercraft), based on the posts I did in the middle of this page: Link: http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/showthread.php?t=9630&page=19&highlight=tubercles My sketch hangs on my wall, another great idea I don't have the time, money and expertise to pursue. Today I read this story, and think maybe I'm not so crazy afterall.   Quote: 
 
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			You know what?  My sketch is very different from what these guys ended up with.   http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/213475 http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:WhalePower_Corp#Company:_WhalePower_Corp .  Smooth (left) and scalloped (right) idealized humpback whale flipper models used for wind tunnel testing of lift, drag, efficiency, and stall behavior. While testing, only one of the models is mounted in the wind tunnel. These idealized, scale models, milled from clear polycarbonate sheet, use a NACA 0020 sectional profile (20% thick).  http://www.pratt.duke.edu/news/index.php?story=156 Quote: 
  Patent: http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2006042401 What is claimed is: 1. A turbine/compressor comprising: at least one magneto-electric device; a drive train coupled to said magneto-electric device; and at least one rotor blade coupled to said drive train, said rotor blade having a shaped leading edge configured to enhance lift and reduce drag. 2. A turbine/compressor according to claim 1 wherein said leading edge includes a series of spaced tubercles formed therealong. 3. A turbine/compressor according to claim 2 further comprising a control system to adjust the orientation of said rotor blade so that said rotor blade faces incoming fluid flow. 4. A turbine/compressor according to claim 3 further comprising a second control system to alter the shape of said rotor blade. 5. A turbine/compressor according to claim 4 wherein said second control system alters the pitch of said rotor blade. 6. A turbine/compressor according to claim 4 wherein said second control system alters the spacing and/or shape of said tubercles. 7. A turbine/compressor according to claim 1 wherein said drive train is a shaft directly coupling said rotor blade and said magneto-electric device. 8. A turbine/compressor according to claim 1 wherein said drive train includes a drive shaft and transmission arrangement acting between said rotor blade and magneto-electric device. 9. A turbine/compressor according to claim 8 further comprising a control system to adjust the orientation of said rotor blade so that said rotor blade faces incoming fluid flow. 10. A turbine/compressor according to claim 9 further comprising a second control system to alter the shape of said rotor blade. 11. A turbine/compressor according to claim 10 wherein said second control system alters the pitch of said rotor blade. 12. A turbine/compressor according to claim 11 wherein said second control system alters the spacing and/or shape of said tubercles. 13. A turbine comprising: at least one generator; a drive train coupled to said generator; and at least one rotor blade coupled to said drive train, said rotor blade having a shaped leading edge with a series of spaced tubercles formed therealong. 14. A turbine according to claim 13 further comprising a control system to adjust the orientation of said rotor blade so that said rotor blade faces incoming fluid flow. 15. A turbine according to claim 14 further comprising a second control system to alter the shape of said rotor blade. 16. A turbine according to claim 15 wherein said drive train is a shaft directly coupling said rotor blade and said generator. 17. A turbine according to claim 15 wherein said drive train includes a drive shaft and transmission arrangement acting between said rotor blade and generator. 18. A turbine according to claim 17 further comprising a plurality of linked generators. 19. A turbine according to claim 18 wherein said linked generators are in¬ line.   
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			Neat kach! I believe I have a great new idea on a food process technique that could be used in restaurants, fast food restaurants and at home. It could be sold by a Kraft type company. I don't have the time or money to get the appropriate patents, so the idea may never come to fruition. 
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