Bashing: Let's Do Gandhi Next

[Tim Hancock]

Originally posted by Superman
The last thing Republicans want to happen is for the state to be able to enforce child labor, minimum wage and overtime laws. It was an annual, hellacious fight for which I had a front row seat.

It is good to know that the republicans were attempting to keep those pushing a union agenda at bay.

[Superman]

I'm glad to see you understand this much. Yes, unions oppose the hurting and killing of children in the work place. (wink)

[Tim Hancock]

Originally posted by Superman
I'm glad to see you understand this much. Yes, unions oppose the hurting and killing of children in the work place. (wink)

Yeah, child labor is just a huge problem nowadays.
We need some laws on the books to protect them...think of the children!

[Superman]

Originally posted by Tim Hancock
Yeah, child labor is just a huge problem nowadays.
We need some laws on the books to protect them...think of the children!

Bravo. Correct. In spite of substantial and well organized political support, the fight by commerce and industry to retain the exploitation of children has been lost.

[BeyGon]

Originally posted by Superman
Bravo. Correct. In spite of substantial and well organized political support, the fight by commerce and industry to retain the exploitation of children has been lost.

I live in Southern California so I admit to leading a shelterd life, can you point out where, in the last twenty or so years, has this exploitation of children been taking place?

[Superman]

You probably couldn't see the impish grin on my face as I posted that. Tim will probably recognize it. Let's just say that, very possibly, the child labor problem was largely cleared up before the last twenty years began.

Here's where the serious part of the post starts: But not so fast, actually. Child labor is not exterminated here, by any means. The Yakima area here in Washington State is very agricultural. Very. All sorts of crops. Lots of brown faces in those fields. When a state vehicle stops on the road and people get out, children RUN. Children of any age you can name. The 1 year-olds are being held by their working mothers. The four year olds are running.

[72doug2,2S]

A few incoherent thoughts, for a completely incoherent post.

1) Gandhi was a racist, albeit a peaceful one.

2) Bush is nobody's first choice, but he is the US Commander and chief, the President of the USA. If you are a US citizen, he is your President. Speak your mind, but also respect the office and those who hold it. If you don't like it here, nobody is keeping you from leaving.

3) Both alternatives to Bush were infinitely worse. "Lock Box"

4) It's time to repeal the minimum wage of the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938. The minimum wage act denies market forces from working by artificially interfering with wages. It has rarely worked and it certainly isn't working now.

Flame away!

[dd74]

What's the term "Lock Box" mean?

[nostatic]

Originally posted by Tim Hancock
Life SHOULD be easy = bleeding heart liberal

and silver spoon republicans...

[nostatic]

Originally posted by dd74
What's the term "Lock Box" mean?

Al Gore reference

[BeyGon]

Originally posted by Superman
You probably couldn't see the impish grin on my face as I posted that. Tim will probably recognize it. Let's just say that, very possibly, the child labor problem was largely cleared up before the last twenty years began.

Here's where the serious part of the post starts: But not so fast, actually. Child labor is not exterminated here, by any means. The Yakima area here in Washington State is very agricultural. Very. All sorts of crops. Lots of brown faces in those fields. When a state vehicle stops on the road and people get out, children RUN. Children of any age you can name. The 1 year-olds are being held by their working mothers. The four year olds are running.

So, the child labor laws are being broken by illegal aliens, is that the fact you are pointing out?

[MichiganMat]

Apparently some would have us fight Chinese-style labor practices with... well, Chinese-style labor practices. Brilliant.

Heres to a 14 hour day and no rights! Power to the... er, market?

BTW: IMHO some of you are completely mad.

[nostatic]

the problem is we'll still lose. They've got numbers...

[Superman]

Yeah, I saw that remark about repealing minimum wage so that market forces are not frustrated. I'm not going to respond to it.

[dd74]

Originally posted by nostatic
Al Gore reference

As in "Three Lock Box"...

[Victor]

Originally posted by Super_Dave_D
I didnt know that - was it an 8.8 or a 3.7

I believe it was the 3.7. But not sure - the Pope served in the Hitler Jugend with an anti-aircraft auxiliary in the occupation forces in Hungary. Google, thus far has not revealed the size of his firearm.

More importantly though, I wonder how many allied airmen he blew out of the sky and whether the fact that the man pulling the trigger would some day become God / Jesus' representative on earth would have been of any comfort to them?

[Moneyguy1]

Yup...

I see some here yearning for a return to the nineteenth century labor environment. I suggest re-reading some of the novels of the times....Dickens is an excellent start. Then go for the bios of Carnege and the rest of the leaders of industry of the time.

Those who ignore the lessons of history may wll become victims of a repeat of same.

[Tim Hancock]

Originally posted by Superman
You probably couldn't see the impish grin on my face as I posted that. Tim will probably recognize it. Let's just say that, very possibly, the child labor problem was largely cleared up before the last twenty years began.

Here's where the serious part of the post starts: But not so fast, actually. Child labor is not exterminated here, by any means. The Yakima area here in Washington State is very agricultural. Very. All sorts of crops. Lots of brown faces in those fields. When a state vehicle stops on the road and people get out, children RUN. Children of any age you can name. The 1 year-olds are being held by their working mothers. The four year olds are running.

So you weren't fighting the republicans about that issue because it is no longer an issue

My grandfather was a tomato farmer and migrants lived in little shacks down by the barn every summer. They all worked hard including the kids. So what, they were happy and they made good money compared to what they had back home. My brother and my cousins and I all did it one summer too when the effing Flock union came in and forced my grandpa's loyal workers out of the fields. My grandfather stood out by the road for a few days with a shotgun to keep the flockers at bay for awhile, but eventually, his workers feared for their safety and left town.

PS I HATE unions, always have always will. The fact that the republicans busted your chops over union matters brings a huge grin to my face.

[lyon]

Malcolm X?

[MichiganMat]

You know, if age has given me anything its given me the gifit of hindsight, and in hindsight, the only thing I regret about my formative years is that I didn't get a chance to work for Standard Oil or the United Fruit Company. Man, to be a participant and witness to market forces in action, what an opporitunity that would be.