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Racerbvd · Racerbvd's Garage

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lendaddy · 06-21-2007, 05:49 PM

I never carry an extra battery either, never had to as my phone will go two days on a charge. If this thing really is only 5-8 hours then that's asinine.

nostatic · nostatic's Garage

5-8 hours of use. Standby is said to be 250 hours.

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/06/18iphone.html

lendaddy · 06-21-2007, 05:55 PM

OK, I thought that was strange. 10 days of standby is actually awesome.

nostatic · nostatic's Garage

I'm most curious about the screen. It is a lot of realestate, and will get smeared with skin oils and possibly cracked. I think that is the biggest challenge.

Moses · 06-21-2007, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts
I think it will be a very cool device. Just not sure if it's going to work as well as everyone thinks it will. I think the Internet access will be unbearable, if my current EDGE phone is any model...

-Wayne

You will not need to use the EDGE protocol unless you are not near a WiFi router. The iPod is WiFi enabled but you have to pay AT&T for the EDGE access package in order to unlock the WiFi capability. I could be wrong, but thats my understanding.

lendaddy · 06-21-2007, 06:47 PM

A little OT but what does my Nextel use for internet? I just have the basic setup to check news and sports scores but it is painfully slow most of the time.

red-beard · red-beard's Garage

The info on the Treo is innacurate. Screen on a Treo is glass. The 750 is 20mm thick.

Funny, the 750 isn't the top of the line Palm. The 755 is out (window mobile) and the Treo 680 is the top of the line PalmOS phone. And the 750/755 for $79 can have Wifi access. So it should be listed as for extra cost.

iPhone Doesn't have:

Speakerphone
Push E-mail
VPN capability
IR connectivity
SD Slot
Can't be used as a modem for a Computer with Bluetooth

A suggestion on one of the sites was that for corporate users, Outlook Web Access would work great, no need for push technology. What a laugh! OWA is hard enough to work properly on a laptop, on a smart phone it's terrible.

nostatic · nostatic's Garage

*sigh*

It isn't a corporate phone. And I'm a fairly "power" user but don't do push (I hate it...I will hit the server when *I* want), never do vpn, can count on one hand the number of times I've used the speakerphone capability on my cell, and haven't used an IR port since the 90's. And doing 802.11 by SD shouldn't be listed since it doesn't do it out of the box. If you start talking about peripherals then all bets are off on all counts.

Funny, but OWA works fine on my Macs. Decent alternative to Entourage but I've taken to using that for calendar since we're on exchange.

red-beard · red-beard's Garage

Quote:

Originally posted by nostatic
*sigh*

It isn't a corporate phone. And I'm a fairly "power" user but don't do push (I hate it...I will hit the server when *I* want), never do vpn, can count on one hand the number of times I've used the speakerphone capability on my cell, and haven't used an IR port since the 90's. And doing 802.11 by SD shouldn't be listed since it doesn't do it out of the box. If you start talking about peripherals then all bets are off on all counts.

Then why are they comparing the iPhone to plainly corporate phone? I don't see how Apple will sell 10 million phones if corporate users will not buy them.

IR: Used it today to move the Pool picture to laptop for uploading to Pelican. How will you move a picture to your PC with the iPhone? Cable? E-mail?

Wifi: It says "NO" for the 750. Nothing else listed can do Wifi in any form. For the 750, it is a standard option.

Speakphone: I use mine quite often, but yes, usually for corporate reasons. Otherwise I usually use a Bluetooth headset.

Headsets: Does the iPhone do Stereo Bluetooth Headsets (A2DP)? I couldn't find a yes or no.

And VOYP? Yes/no?

nostatic · nostatic's Garage

you and the three other people in the world who use IR are complaining.

And what is a "standard option"? You can buy an SD card to do 802.11, right? Then you also don't effectively have an SD slot any more, do you?

I send my pics either by email, MMS, or USB cable (which also charges the phone). I don't have a home computer with an IR port. Like I said, welcome to the 90's

kstar · 06-21-2007, 10:48 PM

Forget the iPhone, how about this!?:

Best,

Kurt

nostatic · nostatic's Garage

must buy big ass table. now.

island911 · 06-21-2007, 10:53 PM

nostatic · nostatic's Garage

see? You guys turning down eternal life...now see what you've done?

island911 · 06-21-2007, 11:04 PM

Aren't ya glad ya didn't kill youself today?

iPhone 2.0

slakjaw · 06-22-2007, 12:10 AM

iphone "its like playing a game in the mind of a retard"

It’s not the iphone that I dislike. Its that you can only get it on an Allen & Two Techs network. (Yes, I know Allen is no longer the CEO)

Nostatic, you said that 3G would be here soon enough. Well, its already here. ATT are the only ones pretending its not. Some carriers are rolling 4G right now. Also, please be aware that 3G is actually very different from HSDPA or EVDO. There are bunches of phones that will do wifi. Personally I don’t want to have to pay to use wifi as well as pay for a data plan from ATT. Most other carriers allow their phones to be used as a modem via USB cable. I am sure you could do this with the iphone but at 128k I am not sure if it would be a good thing.

I think the iphone is cool just not as cool as a wimax iphone would have been.

kstar · 11:11 PM

W: It really is just a phone with a really good user interface and good software - it runs OSX, as you probably know.

I use an old Sanyo phone now that runs the Opera web browser really well on the regular Sprint network. This phone's UI stinks.

The iPhone's soul is the OS + UI and that is where it will shine, IMO. It may look nice, but the way it works is why it will sell millions.

A lot of phones have similar or better "features" than the iPhone, but none that I know of have the cross feature integration, solid OS and an ease of use that the iPhone will offer. It's also a real computer.

Just like the iPod was just another digital music player that took off because of the UI, I expect the iPhone to follow this path.

IMO, it's not a big stretch to believe the iPhone will be a huge seller. They've been testing this sucker for a while now, and Apple has become quite good at selling mini-computers. Pick up an iPhone and some AAPL shares too - the stock is still cheap, IMNSHO.

Best,

Kurt

Moses · 06-23-2007, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts
Right, I'm teetering on the edge (no pun) of getting one. But, the big drawback I see is the EDGE network. I'm also weary of the fact that I will buy one, and then 3 months later, Apple will come out with Gen2 that runs on the 3G network. Then, I'll be stuck with a slow-ass phone for two years (much like my useless Razr that I *hate* right now). I actually wish I could have my i90 back...

Looks like I may be passing on the 1st gen of the phone. Don't know yet...

-Wayne

I guess I'm missing something. My understanding is that the iPhone has full WiFi connectivity. Doesn't that mean that you won't need to use the EDGE system unless you can't find a WiFi hotspot? Is a 3G network a WiFi independent connection protocol?

Moses · 06-23-2007, 07:05 AM

OK. Now I'm really confused. I figured out what a 3G network is. It's a mobile network that has evolved to handle high speed video and data transfer. Great. So I looked at the AT&T website and they clearly describe their EDGE network as a network that is available when you can't connect to a 3G network.

Doesn't this mean the iPhone should have at least three connectivity options? (802.11 WiFi, 3G and EDGE).