Armitage & Rove.

Please take emotion and ideology out of the equation, Richard. Just stick to the law.

Ok, I'll stick to the law. Rove was never a target of the investigation, was not charged, not indicted. Same for Armitage except he ADMITTED being the leaker. See the problem here?

No. Armitage was cooperating with the prosecutor and I have no idea what arrangements were made between them.

Richard, lets try my earlier question again, but this time lets make it personal...

Suppose your co-worker (Joe Blow) outs a CIA agent with cover (confirmed by the CIA, BTW), and you (RL) lie to obstruct the prosecution of the case against your co-worker (Joe Blow), you (RL) will spend a lot of years in federal prison. Do you doubt that? And it would be appropriate.

Jim, you're assuming Libby was trying to protect Amritage which is not true. Armitage had already admitted it.

Yeah James, if your scenario were anything at all like what happened, I might agree with the verdict. But it's not even close.

Not assuming anything. There was a conviction on multiple counts. I guess politics makes it all better. Poor unfairly picked on Libby.

Let's stop trying to retry the case in OT. Sandy Berger's skivvies, the stained blue dress, Bill's BJ and "is" and what other administration characters did is irrelevant. Libby was convicted.

really? You have any inside information that the prosecution was not aware of?

I was going to ask you the same question.

I'm sworn to secrecy. :D

Valerie Plame was not a "black" CIA employee. She had told several of her neighbours that she was a company employee and it was well known around DC.

Otherwise agree with what you are saying but she does not fit into this catagory, no matter how much she might want to make us feel this way.

The CIA disputed your claim, Joe.

So have a lot of other people who were not guilty as well. You want to overlook this I assume?

Yes. It's called "focus."

They didn't do so until around the time Libby was indicted, long after they were asked about this. They stalled and stalled on this, trying to cover their a$ses for their pi$s poor job of defining her status or "protecting" her cover, letting her pose for the cover of Vanity Fair, list the CIA as her employer when she donated to Al Gore's campaign, list herself in Who's Who in American. If our spies are really this bad, we are in big trouble.

Anyway, Wilson made bogus allegations about Cheney in the NYT. Would you have bought it had Cheney said, "Those allegations are false, but I can't tell you why because it would lead to the identity of an undercover operative who arranged for Wilson to make this trip?" Yeah, I'm sure everyone would have bought that.

What does that have to do with anything?

Dodge, weave, jump, pull back, dodge, weave...

For the life of me, I don't understand why some of you want two levels of justice in America. Shouldn't all be held accountable, equally under the law?

It has a lot to do with everything, since her covert status was in question for the entire length of the investigation. In fact, I don't recall any reporter mentioning exactly when the CIA confirmed that she was undercover. It was an open question until after Libby's indictment, which makes one wonder if the CIA changed anything to give the investigation some more legs. Has nothing to do with Libby, since he wasn't charged with leaking her name. But the crime Fitzgerald was after could have been substantiated long before it was, which would have given his fishing expedition a little more legitimacy. How would you like to have on your resume a two-year, multi-million dollar investigation that never charged anyone for what you were originally investigating?

I give up. You believe what you want to believe. You pol's are the only good pol's. Everyone's conspiring against your pol's. It's all an evil plot.

Absolutely. And that's why Joe Wilson belongs in jail. Not only did his op-ed in the NYT out his wife by drawing attention to himself and how he picked for the trip, he also LIED to the Senate Intel. Comm., which is a fed. crime.

Libby....this thread is about Libby.