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Drdogface 07-05-2007 09:28 AM

First, do no harm....
 
That's a line from the Hypocratic Oath that Physicians take. I guess these Muslim sand rats didn't get the memo...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/05/nterror405.xml

When will we ever learn? Religion of peace...yeah, right. Non citizen Muslims...you have 90 days to pack your crap and get out.

Rot 911 07-05-2007 10:21 AM

concur

Joeaksa 07-05-2007 10:26 AM

Re: First, do no harm....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Drdogface
Non citizen Muslims...you have 90 days to pack your crap and get out.
It may not be far from this already in the UK. Every person we ran into who talked about the recent bombings were 100% against anyone who did not try mix with the local customs and behaviour after they moved there.

Many of them were ready to kick them out a couple of days ago...

azasadny 07-05-2007 10:36 AM

Funny that the latest terrorist suspects don't fit the profile we have been told is "standard" (young, little education, poor and impoverished, prone to believe jingoistic teachers, impressionable, etc...)

kach22i 07-05-2007 11:47 AM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/05/nterror405.xml
Quote:

A group of 45 Muslim doctors threatened to use car bombs and rocket grenades in terrorist attacks in the United States during discussions on an extremist internet chat site.....................Part of the inquiry into the London and Glasgow incidents will focus on whether al-Qa'eda has recruited doctors or other medical professionals because they are less likely to attract suspicion and can move easily around the western world....................................In one on-line conversation, Daour, asked what he would do with £1 million, replied: "Sponsor terrorist attacks, become the new Osama."

The three men outwardly appeared to be leading normal lives, studying and living with their parents. Tsouli had come to the UK with his family from Morocco in 2001.

Mughal had a degree in biochemistry from Leicester University and was studying for his masters.

Daour, who was granted British citizenship in May 2005, had applied to start a law degree.
Osama's righ hand men were/are an architect and a doctor.

I don't understand them and I grew up with them in the largest concentration of Arabs/Muslims in America (Dearborn, Michigan).


In the Way of the Prophet: Ideologies and Institutions in Dearborn, Michigan, America's Muslim Capitol
http://www.americancity.org/article.php?id_article=72
Quote:

Dearborn is a microcosm of the Middle East planted in the Midwestern United States. The roughly 40,000 of Dearborn’s 100,000 residents that are Arab American defy the myth many Americans hold of a unified Muslim world, filled with parading masses bearing the likeness of Ayatollah Khomenei. While there are some radical Islamists, Dearborn’s growing Muslim population runs the gamut from international traders to educated professionals to local business owners. Every Arab nationality and religious sect is found here, from Yemeni traditionalism to secular modernity.

Moses 07-05-2007 12:56 PM

On your knees...

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah, ... nor follow
the religion of truth... until they pay the tax in acknowledg-ment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."
Qur'an, Sura 9:29

Moses 07-05-2007 01:00 PM

More enlightenment...



Sura (8:55) - Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve
Sura (48:29) - Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves

Sura (9:30) - And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah... Allah (Himself) fights against them. How perverse are they!

Sura (8:12) - I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them

Sura (9:123) - O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness

Sura (5:33) - The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement

Burnin' oil 07-05-2007 01:11 PM

Soooooooo intolerant. All we need is love, yeah, love is all we need.

Drdogface 07-05-2007 01:18 PM

Not intolerant enough it seems. I heard yesterday that the Dutch are starting to forbid any new construction of Mosques and making it illegal to speak any language but Dutch on the streets. They are on the right track anyway.

Moses 07-05-2007 01:25 PM

Certainly not an objective website, but scroll down to the 3 month long log of islamic violence.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

CurtEgerer 07-05-2007 01:43 PM

>>>Funny that the latest terrorist suspects don't fit the profile we have been told is "standard" (young, little education, poor and impoverished, prone to believe jingoistic teachers, impressionable, etc...)<<<

Art, don't know about you, but it makes me even more concerned with the goings on in Dearborn-istan. Most people from outside Detroit-metro would simply not believe what's happened to that place. I was there last week and even the RiteAid franchise drug store sign was in Arabic!! I stopped at the Target store to buy batteries and I was the only one there without a robe, a turbin or a berka - I'm surprised they accepted US currency.

CurtEgerer 07-05-2007 01:53 PM

Just found this on Google. An AT&T billboard in Dearborn Michigan - hometown of Henry Ford ..... this is what you see throughout the city. Many businesses don't even have the English subtitles.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1183672324.jpg

Drdogface 07-05-2007 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CurtEgerer

Art, don't know about you, but it makes me even more concerned with the goings on in Dearborn-istan. Most people from outside Detroit-metro would simply not believe what's happened to that place.

Is Dearborn the city where the Muslims got the city to allow them to play their God awful 'call to prayer' five to seven times a day ...starting at about 5 AM... over loud speakers? I damn near burst an artery when I heard about that a few years back. Where ever it is, I guess you can hear it all over the city and can't get away from it. If I lived there I'd be in jail by now.

Rick Lee 07-05-2007 02:43 PM

There was an article in a paper a few weeks ago saying that Mohammed is now the second most common name for baby boys in the UK. Looks like they'd have a problem eventually even if they deported all the non-citizens.

Burnin' oil 07-05-2007 02:46 PM

Here's some good reading.

http://www.youngmuslims.ca/online_library/books/jihad/#all_muslims

Dottore 07-05-2007 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Drdogface
I heard yesterday that the Dutch are starting to forbid any new construction of Mosques and making it illegal to speak any language but Dutch on the streets.
Illegal to speak any language other than Dutch on the streets??? Where to you get this kind of nonsense???

Rick V 07-05-2007 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Drdogface
Not intolerant enough it seems. I heard yesterday that the Dutch are starting to forbid any new construction of Mosques and making it illegal to speak any language but Dutch on the streets. They are on the right track anyway.
And we can't get our government to make English our official language

Drdogface 07-05-2007 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dottore
Illegal to speak any language other than Dutch on the streets??? Where to you get this kind of nonsense???
Just what I heard on radio news... Possibly they mean in business but that's was not what they said... CNN radio news. Call it nonsense if you want.

stomachmonkey 07-05-2007 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by azasadny
Funny that the latest terrorist suspects don't fit the profile we have been told is "standard" (young, little education, poor and impoverished, prone to believe jingoistic teachers, impressionable, etc...)
And that is EXACTLY the problem with profiling. Over time it will always prove to be wrong. If you profile you will always find what you are looking for but you will miss just as much.

As far as the signage being non-english I guess we should have a talk with the chinese, koreans, hispanics and every other nationality that have set themselves up in concentrated groups in our major cities.

I guess NYC will still be the same w/out ChinaTown, Little Italy etc...

Makes Greek Diners easier to find also.

Painting everyone with the same broad stroke is like pinstripping your car with 12' roller.

Yeah I'm sensitive to it. Anyone that has ever been on the receiving end of bias/bigotry because of profiling will understand.

For those of you that don't get it consider yourselves fortunate.

alf 07-05-2007 04:35 PM

I reckon that practicing doctors could dish out more terror undetected as doctors than making bombs. Good thing they are not too creative...


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