Here's another vid...this guy is writing a letter to congress on Salvia (so it must not be that potent):

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/2JPfnJVEr8E&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/2JPfnJVEr8E&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

Nah. No longer than the kid in the second video of the first post. That actually seemed pretty long to me. You come back pretty quick but feel kinda groggy for maybe an hour.

Eh, I'd rather stick some 2700 year old pot into my bong.

From the cameras point of view, Salvia just does not look fun.

Looks like fun to watch other people do.

Looks like quality entertainment. :rolleyes:

Times must be changing I think we had more fun in the 80's.

reminds me of a joke:

Do you know what Coors Lite and screwing in a rowboat have in common?


They're both fuchin close to water!

+1

I'll leave my life experience out of this thanks, but I agree.

Stop doing acid. Its not good for you mentally. I feel it hurts you emotionally as well. Just my 2 cents.

Had some MGD 64 the other night...it is even closer to water than Coors Lite, it literally had almost no taste whatsoever.

Beelch. That stuffs crap Garret. Just finished off a sam adams and next is a guiness. Then off to the bar. Just had my last class of the semester so need to get wasted tonight before the studying for finals starts tomm night!

Whoa! :eek:

Had a Blue Moon Full Moon and a Sam Adams Holiday Porter tonight while I finished a project...gonna drink Keystone and get hammered tomorrow night.

You can actually get trashed with Keystone??? Piss water.

OK, I did drink my fair share of Keystone light in HS and college.

After 15 or 20, yes I will be quite drunk. If I really want a wild night though, I will likely have to mix something more potent in.

Here he is getting ready to drive on Salvia...CLASSIC!!! Love when the lion jumps on the hood of the car:rolleyes:

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/WruyjJwyf0M&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/WruyjJwyf0M&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

I'm pretty sure that one of his next videos will be smoking salvia in a jail cell with Bubba.

"I used them all too. Maybe 300 hits of acid...."

- Is that every 24 hr day or just at night?

What a fkin moron.

IMO If someone can't deal with reality they should get professional help or just off themselves and get it over with.
Using halucinogenic drugs to escape reality is a weak cop-out. Really weak.

Over a period of a few years. It was high school and in my high school you were either a redneck or a druggie. I wasn't really either. I loved cars and the rednecks (many of whom were sons of Nascar racers) had cars but most of my friends were druggies. It was the heyday of rock n roll- Big Brother (with and without Janis) were performing regularly in our area; Toy and Tommy Tucker were becoming the Marshall Tucker Band, the Allman Brothers were just getting started (I even smoked with them on two occassions- a long story there about a friends bad trip) and it was just part of the era I guess. Not the smartest thing I ever did for sure. But I don't regret it. I can't change the past and those experiences shape my outlook today- and some of them were immensely pleasurable.

One memorable experience was A Bros doing "Dreams" at about 2AM. We were tripping and were litterally coming down off the mountain (they had started playing in a rodeo pit below the hill where we camping and we were walking down). I love that song and vividly remember that night to this day. First girlfriend, good friends, good dope. It was beautiful.

We didn't do drugs to escape reality. We were making our own and drugs were just a part of it. Just "saying no", "offing yourself" or throwing people in jail is not the answer. Education and legalization is. Take away the danger and you take away the allure. Throughout history man has gotten "high" one way or another. Sanctimonious statements or laws aren't going to change that.

Ironically one of my best friends is pretty highly placed at DEA. He feels the same way about most drugs (but not meth and heroin for sure).

I don't know where the band name originated, but those were the Caldwell brothers :). You're forgiven, those were the daze and a great band to boot!

I stand corrected, thank you. And note you're a Carolina boy too. We used to see them in Hickory, in a place called The Point After. Lots of beer and fights. And fun.

I'm all for people being allowed to do as they wish in their own home, but being a parent of three kids 20, 14 and 9 it is a bit scary to see. I did my fair share of weed growing up but had friends really go of the deep end into the drug world, never went beyond weed though, I never liked who my friends become when they were on other drugs.
I suppose if you are able to keep it under control then it is no different then when i have too many beers and become a bit loud and stupid. The scary part is when it takes over your life, and if you have an addictive personality just one try and you are done. That is what scares me with my kids, i teach them right and hope they will always make the right choice but all it takes is one try and it could get them hooked for the rest of their life.
Being a firefighter/paramedic i also see the flip side of this when it goes bad, and it goes bad for people a lot. The youth, as i'm sure i did, have the feeling that nothing can happen to them, but it can and does.
So as a parent i will have to say this stuff is bad news and we will have something to talk about at dinner tonight for sure.

Never had the pleasure of seeing them live (I think you're a few years older than I), but I grew up with their music (along w/ Allmans w/ Duane, etc.). Sorry to burst some "uptight righties" perspectives, but I know of VERY few who didn't "experiment" back then...solid, successful, upstanding citizens in spite of it (OR because of it) :).

I've never done the Salvia thing and the only reason I've been watching the Salvia vids on YouTube is because I just heard about this drug - some girls at work were talking about it.

It's pretty shocking and looks to me like a short heroine trip (which I have no experience with).

One common element that I've noticed in most of the videos is peoples houses - they all look like druggie's hoods. Maybe there's something to that.

In any case, I have smoked weed on ocaison but that's good enough for me. I just don't have the time for the others.

Funny- my dad loves that joke.

Just by looking at those stupids makes me feel smart!

Seriously.. Pretty sad to see guys getting stupider just for fun...


At the end of the day the ones who didn't use drugs are the ones laughing..

glewis80SC I certainly see where you're coming from and applaud the approach you take with your kids. It's an approach my parents never took with me (they believed, back then, that Reefer Madness was a true documentary). I too have seen the bad effects of drug use- they are anything but pretty. I'm certainly not advocating that everyone try what I did; "The needle and the damage done" is not just a pretty song it's pretty accurate.

But the conservatives (of which I am one on a great many issues) should be smart enough to realize that the war on drugs was lost before it began. IMO if the government took the approach you're taking with your kids there would be a lot less carnage, wrecked homes, ruined lives and needless deaths. Instead we just breed criminals and grow cartels- and the deaths and ruined lives continue.

And for the record you pollyannas- I used plenty of drugs as did my friends. We're now the doctors, lawyers, pilots and business owners etc. you see every day. The vast majority have very successful lives and laugh every day. Some of us (oh lordy lordy) still partake. I probably would too (at least occasionally) but I've got a clearance I want to keep.

I think I'm going to listen to Live at Fillmore East tonight. With a little alcohol- one of the deadliest drugs I know of.

http://i518.photobucket.com/albums/u...ll/allmans.jpg

Excellent live album...

"Ain’t but one way out baby, Lord I just can’t go out the door..."


Ahhh, the good ol' daze...

FWIW (from their website):

When MTB first got together in their native Spartanburg back in 1972 they were rehearsing in an old warehouse. They had yet to decide on a name and were discussing what they should call themselves one evening. Someone looked at the tag on the key and it said "Marshall Tucker" and it was suggested they call themselves the Marshall Tucker Band, not knowing it was a real person's name. Because it was time to go to dinner and everyone was hungry they said "sounds great" and the rest is history.

A few years later they found out that Marshall Tucker was the name of the person who rented the building before them. His name was still on the key tag because the warehouse owner hadn't changed it yet. Mr. Tucker was a blind piano tuner, who, along with his partner, used the building for their piano business.

That seems like a pretty weak generalization to me. Most people who try hallucinogens deal with reality just fine. Its not an escape but an experience and its been been done for thousands of years. Off themselves?...what good advice for such a large percentage of cultures and people over the history of mankind. Sounds like a comment from someone who never tried them and saw too many anti-drug commercials made by people who also never tired them.

I learn something new everyday here on PPOT...thanks for that bit of nostalgia...brings back memories :)!

Yeah, that's a total no-go. Haha

Haven't dropped acid in probably 20 years, but man, what a GREAT friggin time that is.

8 hours of altered-bliss.

8 hours means it's a low hit
12 hours and loosing your sense of self, now that's a proper hit..


Salvia doesn't last nearly as long, although you might think it does while your in...
It's also rather uniform, crap like nature spirit/godess is a recurring theme for many that get a good hit from it. which aint as easy to say, a good concentration is hard to find...

Acid is the golden standard, predicitable but heavy weirdness... it's harder with age though as one tends to be less "open" to the experience, and one also kinda grows more worried with age, which translates to a tendency to bad tripping if not in the right set and setting...
An 8 hour mild acid hit is great fun, but you just don't tell from the hit if it's a 100ug or 400 ug hit... mild, or maximum zoink...
one minute you sit there waiting , and then next you go , hmm, this is comining on kinda strooooooonnnnnng snap. i'm a dot in space...what is I?what's a dot?what's a what?
and then follows the 10-11 hour introspective struggle to find your "self" back, a proper trip... for better or for worse

the real nasty one, the one that you just do not want to try is Datura, or Jimson weed
they might as well call it "trainwreck herb", as it goes on for days and days... drink the tea, wake up in hospital after the police picked you up butnaked wandering in the streets..wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole... and they acutally sell those plants/flowers in shops, i often walk by em at the check out, and i start tripping just standing near the things, knowing what it can do(never tried it, never willl, the stuff just freaks me out just seing it)

Get's better, they release you, thinking you're back to normal... and then you start tripping again while walking home... and wake up in jail...

EDIT< for got , datura is also potentially lethal... you can try it 5 times and be fine, and the 6th might put you in yer coffin... do not try it, ever...

i've tried it the stuff is crazy it's not to be messed with if you arent ready its like super powerfull superconcentrated weed but with different effects