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ckissick 08-07-2007 08:10 PM

Bonds does it!
 
756! Yeah, baby! I know I won't make any friends with this posting, but us lifelong Giants fans can't help but like our homerun king. My wife does business with his mother, and she's what is best decribed as a lovely woman. Bobby was my hero as a kid. OK, I got my flame suit on now.

Rearden 08-07-2007 08:17 PM

756*

ikarcuaso 08-07-2007 08:22 PM

* achieved by shooting copious amounts of 'roids into the a$$

Hugh R 08-07-2007 08:30 PM

Don't care, but as someone here pointed out, the steroids don't help the eye-hand coordination to connect the ball and the bat, or the aim, only the power behind the hit to drive it out of the park. Again, I don't really care about pro-ball teams. Didn't the Giants used to be in New York or something? How can you get excited or loyal to a home town team that leaves, like the: Giants, Dodgers, Lakers, Raiders, Colts, Jazz, Saints, Rams,.... I guess I could go on, but I really don't follow pro sports.

Porsche-O-Phile 08-07-2007 08:30 PM

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trekkor 08-07-2007 08:53 PM

I'm happy for Bonds.
Baseball is entertainment.

I don't condone illegal drug use.
I read that Bonds has actually never tested positive. Is that true?


I would have been happier if the Giants could have closed the deal on that world series a few years back instead.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/08/07/SPGU4RERLB3.DTL


KT

Sonic dB 08-07-2007 08:55 PM

:)LOL at that movie poster!

the 08-07-2007 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh R (Post 3415965)
Don't care, but as someone here pointed out, the steroids don't help the eye-hand coordination to connect the ball and the bat, or the aim, only the power behind the hit to drive it out of the park.

I hear people say that every now and then, but given that to hit a homerun, you need both (connect to the ball, AND power to drive it out of the park), what is the point?

the 08-07-2007 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 3415999)
I read that Bonds has actually never tested positive. Is that true?
KT

He didn't test negative, either. They didn't test at all during the years he was roiding.

Jeff Alton 08-07-2007 09:39 PM

I think since the scandal broke his hat size is almost where it was before he got on "the program". Only one more size to go and back to normal.......

The thing that pi$$es me off about this loser is that he had enought talent to do it clean. Same as Sosa same as Mcguire. I think they all need a self esteem help group......

But I degress, I have a hard time with the majority of baseball players being called athletes. I will never dispute their rather un human hand eye coordination, but..... :) Anyways, I guess hand eye coordination could make one an athlete..... but to me it just seems like not a lot of physical effort is being put out during a game of baseball. (yes the pitcher works at it) I played through grade 11 as a kid.................


Cheers

Moses 08-07-2007 09:46 PM

Steroids don't do anything... except turn lazy routine fly outs into home runs.

Bonds, McGwire, Sosa. All cheaters.

The single season record still rightfully belongs to Maris, as the all-time mark belongs to Aaron.

HardDrive 08-07-2007 09:57 PM

Delete this thread.

The event that inspired it is not worthy of note.

the 08-07-2007 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moses (Post 3416062)
Steroids don't do anything... except turn lazy routine fly outs into home runs.

Bonds, McGwire, Sosa. All cheaters.

The single season record still rightfully belongs to Maris, as the all-time mark belongs to Aaron.

Yup on all three.

Go A-Rod!

At least he can bring legitimacy back to the career HR record. The tainted single season records likely will never be broken.

Bond, McGuire, Sosa. Check the single season HR records:

1. Barry Bonds* (36) 73 2001 L
2. Mark McGwire (34) 70 1998 R
3. Sammy Sosa (29) 66 1998 R
4. Mark McGwire (35) 65 1999 R
5. Sammy Sosa (32) 64 2001 R
6. Sammy Sosa (30) 63 1999 R
7. Roger Maris* (26) 61 1961 L
8. Babe Ruth+* (32) 60 1927 L
9. Babe Ruth+* (26) 59 1921 L
10. Jimmie Foxx+ (24) 58 1932 R
Hank Greenberg+ (27) 58 1938 R
Ryan Howard* (26) 58 2006 L
Mark McGwire (33) 58 1997 R
14. Luis Gonzalez* (33) 57 2001 L
Alex Rodriguez (26) 57 2002 R
16. Ken Griffey* (27) 56 1997 L
Ken Griffey* (28) 56 1998 L
Hack Wilson+ (30) 56 1930 R
19. Ralph Kiner+ (26) 54 1949 R
Mickey Mantle+# (29) 54 1961 B


Hmm, wonder what was in the water during the '98 through '01 seasons???

Mid to high 60s for HR's just don't happen, and 70 is historically absurd. Except for during that 4 year period, when 3 suddenly massively huge guys consistently did it. Then it suddenly stopped, just as quickly as it started.

MattAlpha 08-07-2007 10:40 PM

Growing up in Pittsburgh I was a fan of Bonds before he took the free agent ticket to San Fran for more money and to be on the team of his god father. That was the right decision for him so I can't fault him, but there are very few people in Pittsburgh that care for him now. He weighed 180lbs in his rookie year in Pittsburgh and he weighs 230lbs now. I'm pretty sure that extra 50 pounds isn't a beer gut. You do have to give him credit for being able to stay in the major league for that long. Most records can be reached or surpassed if you're in the league for twenty plus years.
-Matt

ZOO 08-08-2007 03:21 AM

Aaron has the record for all time total bases. Even if Bonds had 180 more home runs, he wouldn't break that. Actually, according to Sports Illustrated, if you gave 180 more home runs to any other baseball great, they still wouldn't break Aaron's total bases record.

I love the second post -- 756* -- ftw.

azasadny 08-08-2007 03:30 AM

Who cares?

Rich76_911s 08-08-2007 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh R (Post 3415965)
Don't care, but as someone here pointed out, the steroids don't help the eye-hand coordination to connect the ball and the bat, or the aim, only the power behind the hit to drive it out of the park. Again, I don't really care about pro-ball teams. Didn't the Giants used to be in New York or something? How can you get excited or loyal to a home town team that leaves, like the: Giants, Dodgers, Lakers, Raiders, Colts, Jazz, Saints, Rams,.... I guess I could go on, but I really don't follow pro sports.

I disagree that roids don't help in the hand eye coordination. The roids increase your bat speed so in effect you can wait that split second longer, which in all likelihood increases your ability to make contact.

Shorter parks, allowing juiced players, more games a season. Really baseball is at fault. It was a time when the sport was struggling after strikes, and they needed to get people excited about the sport. They are the ones that made the mess. If I were Bonds and I saw marginal players like Mcguire breaking records, on steriods, I guess I would have to consider it to.

Originally Posted by trekkor
I read that Bonds has actually never tested positive. Is that true?
KT
Bonds never tested posotive, he wasn't tested either. He did admit to getting stuck with something that he didn't know what it was. I doubt anyone here can honestly believe these guys weren't on the juice.

Tobra 08-08-2007 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moses (Post 3416062)
Steroids don't do anything... except turn lazy routine fly outs into home runs.

Bonds, McGwire, Sosa. All cheaters.

The single season record still rightfully belongs to Maris, as the all-time mark belongs to Aaron.

If you look at the totals of anyone, they hit less HR's as they age. He really ought to be givng credit to his chemist, but that would be admitting guilt, and totally out of character.

There is absolutely no way he gets either single season or career marks without the steroids.

onewhippedpuppy 08-08-2007 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moses (Post 3416062)
Steroids don't do anything... except turn lazy routine fly outs into home runs.

Bonds, McGwire, Sosa. All cheaters.

The single season record still rightfully belongs to Maris, as the all-time mark belongs to Aaron.

So true. The real pity is that Bonds has always been a good ballplayer. Good hitter, golden glove fielder. Probably would have been a hall of famer. But it wasn't good enough, so he chose to cheat. Ultimately baseball is to blame for their weak drug policies. But at the end of the day, I'm sure they love this. It has baseball in the news, and any advertising is good advertising.

trekkor 08-08-2007 08:43 AM

I don't doubt that he was on 'em.

I just don't think they can prove it.


KT


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