Bonds does it!

[ckissick]

756! Yeah, baby! I know I won't make any friends with this posting, but us lifelong Giants fans can't help but like our homerun king. My wife does business with his mother, and she's what is best decribed as a lovely woman. Bobby was my hero as a kid. OK, I got my flame suit on now.

[Rearden]

756*

[ikarcuaso]

* achieved by shooting copious amounts of 'roids into the a$$

[Hugh R]

Don't care, but as someone here pointed out, the steroids don't help the eye-hand coordination to connect the ball and the bat, or the aim, only the power behind the hit to drive it out of the park. Again, I don't really care about pro-ball teams. Didn't the Giants used to be in New York or something? How can you get excited or loyal to a home town team that leaves, like the: Giants, Dodgers, Lakers, Raiders, Colts, Jazz, Saints, Rams,.... I guess I could go on, but I really don't follow pro sports.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

[trekkor]

I'm happy for Bonds.
Baseball is entertainment.

I don't condone illegal drug use.
I read that Bonds has actually never tested positive. Is that true?


I would have been happier if the Giants could have closed the deal on that world series a few years back instead.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/08/07/SPGU4RERLB3.DTL


KT

[Sonic dB]

LOL at that movie poster!

[the]

Originally Posted by Hugh R

Don't care, but as someone here pointed out, the steroids don't help the eye-hand coordination to connect the ball and the bat, or the aim, only the power behind the hit to drive it out of the park.

I hear people say that every now and then, but given that to hit a homerun, you need both (connect to the ball, AND power to drive it out of the park), what is the point?

[the]

Originally Posted by trekkor

I read that Bonds has actually never tested positive. Is that true?
KT

He didn't test negative, either. They didn't test at all during the years he was roiding.

[Jeff Alton]

I think since the scandal broke his hat size is almost where it was before he got on "the program". Only one more size to go and back to normal.......

The thing that pi$$es me off about this loser is that he had enought talent to do it clean. Same as Sosa same as Mcguire. I think they all need a self esteem help group......

But I degress, I have a hard time with the majority of baseball players being called athletes. I will never dispute their rather un human hand eye coordination, but..... Anyways, I guess hand eye coordination could make one an athlete..... but to me it just seems like not a lot of physical effort is being put out during a game of baseball. (yes the pitcher works at it) I played through grade 11 as a kid.................


Cheers

[Moses]

Steroids don't do anything... except turn lazy routine fly outs into home runs.

Bonds, McGwire, Sosa. All cheaters.

The single season record still rightfully belongs to Maris, as the all-time mark belongs to Aaron.

[HardDrive]

Delete this thread.

The event that inspired it is not worthy of note.

[the]

Originally Posted by Moses

Steroids don't do anything... except turn lazy routine fly outs into home runs.

Bonds, McGwire, Sosa. All cheaters.

The single season record still rightfully belongs to Maris, as the all-time mark belongs to Aaron.

Yup on all three.

Go A-Rod!

At least he can bring legitimacy back to the career HR record. The tainted single season records likely will never be broken.

Bond, McGuire, Sosa. Check the single season HR records:

1. Barry Bonds* (36) 73 2001 L
2. Mark McGwire (34) 70 1998 R
3. Sammy Sosa (29) 66 1998 R
4. Mark McGwire (35) 65 1999 R
5. Sammy Sosa (32) 64 2001 R
6. Sammy Sosa (30) 63 1999 R
7. Roger Maris* (26) 61 1961 L
8. Babe Ruth+* (32) 60 1927 L
9. Babe Ruth+* (26) 59 1921 L
10. Jimmie Foxx+ (24) 58 1932 R
Hank Greenberg+ (27) 58 1938 R
Ryan Howard* (26) 58 2006 L
Mark McGwire (33) 58 1997 R
14. Luis Gonzalez* (33) 57 2001 L
Alex Rodriguez (26) 57 2002 R
16. Ken Griffey* (27) 56 1997 L
Ken Griffey* (28) 56 1998 L
Hack Wilson+ (30) 56 1930 R
19. Ralph Kiner+ (26) 54 1949 R
Mickey Mantle+# (29) 54 1961 B


Hmm, wonder what was in the water during the '98 through '01 seasons???

Mid to high 60s for HR's just don't happen, and 70 is historically absurd. Except for during that 4 year period, when 3 suddenly massively huge guys consistently did it. Then it suddenly stopped, just as quickly as it started.

[MattAlpha]

Growing up in Pittsburgh I was a fan of Bonds before he took the free agent ticket to San Fran for more money and to be on the team of his god father. That was the right decision for him so I can't fault him, but there are very few people in Pittsburgh that care for him now. He weighed 180lbs in his rookie year in Pittsburgh and he weighs 230lbs now. I'm pretty sure that extra 50 pounds isn't a beer gut. You do have to give him credit for being able to stay in the major league for that long. Most records can be reached or surpassed if you're in the league for twenty plus years.
-Matt

[ZOO]

Aaron has the record for all time total bases. Even if Bonds had 180 more home runs, he wouldn't break that. Actually, according to Sports Illustrated, if you gave 180 more home runs to any other baseball great, they still wouldn't break Aaron's total bases record.

I love the second post -- 756* -- ftw.

[azasadny]

Who cares?

[Rich76_911s]

Originally Posted by Hugh R

Don't care, but as someone here pointed out, the steroids don't help the eye-hand coordination to connect the ball and the bat, or the aim, only the power behind the hit to drive it out of the park. Again, I don't really care about pro-ball teams. Didn't the Giants used to be in New York or something? How can you get excited or loyal to a home town team that leaves, like the: Giants, Dodgers, Lakers, Raiders, Colts, Jazz, Saints, Rams,.... I guess I could go on, but I really don't follow pro sports.

I disagree that roids don't help in the hand eye coordination. The roids increase your bat speed so in effect you can wait that split second longer, which in all likelihood increases your ability to make contact.

Shorter parks, allowing juiced players, more games a season. Really baseball is at fault. It was a time when the sport was struggling after strikes, and they needed to get people excited about the sport. They are the ones that made the mess. If I were Bonds and I saw marginal players like Mcguire breaking records, on steriods, I guess I would have to consider it to.

Originally Posted by trekkor
I read that Bonds has actually never tested positive. Is that true?
KT
Bonds never tested posotive, he wasn't tested either. He did admit to getting stuck with something that he didn't know what it was. I doubt anyone here can honestly believe these guys weren't on the juice.

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by Moses

Steroids don't do anything... except turn lazy routine fly outs into home runs.

Bonds, McGwire, Sosa. All cheaters.

The single season record still rightfully belongs to Maris, as the all-time mark belongs to Aaron.

If you look at the totals of anyone, they hit less HR's as they age. He really ought to be givng credit to his chemist, but that would be admitting guilt, and totally out of character.

There is absolutely no way he gets either single season or career marks without the steroids.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by Moses

Steroids don't do anything... except turn lazy routine fly outs into home runs.

Bonds, McGwire, Sosa. All cheaters.

The single season record still rightfully belongs to Maris, as the all-time mark belongs to Aaron.

So true. The real pity is that Bonds has always been a good ballplayer. Good hitter, golden glove fielder. Probably would have been a hall of famer. But it wasn't good enough, so he chose to cheat. Ultimately baseball is to blame for their weak drug policies. But at the end of the day, I'm sure they love this. It has baseball in the news, and any advertising is good advertising.

[trekkor]

I don't doubt that he was on 'em.

I just don't think they can prove it.


KT