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Mule 09-12-2007 04:59 AM

This is your brain

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This is your brain on liberalism

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Dan in Pasadena 09-12-2007 05:27 AM

Just as I thought, you leave a thread like this for a night and come back to find all but a handful of guys calling each other "poo poo heads".

You're a poo poo head!

No, YOU'RE a poo poo head!

If you guys would ever give the name calling a rest (friggin childish) you MIGHT be able to actually have a reasoned discussion about some political issue. Instead you all want to call Hillary, "Hitlery" or fret about the super secret Mormon takeover plan Mitt has. Geez.:rolleyes:

Rick Lee 09-12-2007 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RANDY P (Post 3474476)
Ooh ooh! La Villa Strangiato!

rjp


No, no. That's an instrumental. I'm talking about Cygnus and Dionysius.

RKC 09-12-2007 06:57 AM

That's ridiculous:

I mean, look at the dictionary definitions of those two words. They prove the study is full of........Oh, never mind....they seem to support it.....

con·serv·a·tive [kuhn-sur-vuh-tiv] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1. disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.
3. traditional in style or manner; avoiding novelty or showiness: conservative suit.
4. (often initial capital letter) of or pertaining to the Conservative party.
6. having the power or tendency to conserve; preservative.

lib·er·al [lib-er-uhl, lib-ruhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
2. (often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
6. of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.
7. free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant: a liberal attitude toward foreigners.
8. open-minded or tolerant, esp. free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.

GO DAWG GO 09-12-2007 07:36 AM

I like that definition: "Progress or reform" Yep! "Progressives" The Neo-cons somehow believe you don't know the difference between progress and Socialism...Hum? We should call Democrats what they are "Eastern Block regression". Dan...Your a great guy...But sometimes, name calling is a what it is...The truth!

Dantilla actually has the best quote...

I see it as kind of like the state of constant regression to economically defunct disciplines by new inexperienced people with different names with there figers pointed at someone else...:rolleyes:

RKC 09-12-2007 07:56 AM

I see the problem here and elsewhere as the mindless TV watchers who believe the Conservative and Liberal talking heads - believe with their hearts that Everything is getting awful and we must go back to some Golden time; or that Everything is awful now and we must hurry to some Golden future.

That kind of thinking screams from newstands and news shows and yet is completly crazy. EVERYTHING should not be frozen or turned back - some things are better now than they were. And EVERYTHING should not be advanced - some things are OK now.

Off the top of my head - the most "conservative" people I can think of are Radical Muslims - they want to return to a glorious past where everything in life and after death is certain. Why? Because they fear the advances and openess and chaotic nature of the present. This, I think we can agree, is crazy.

And, off the top of my head, the most liberal people I can think of were those of the French Revolution. They changed EVERYTHING - even the days of the week and the number of days in a week - were changed. How'd that work out? Yup, that was crazy too.

Do Liberals want the proscription against murdering your fellow man to change? No? Then stop pretending they want everything changed.

Do Conservatives want - truly want - us to go back to Salem, MA and start burning non-believers and fornicators (and gay Senators)? No? Then stop complaining that they want everything to revert to the ways of the past.

We're closer than the TV would have you believe.....

island911 09-12-2007 08:13 AM

which 'mind' is more inclined to delude itself with pot . ...again, and again, and again... ?

DARISC 09-12-2007 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan in Pasadena (Post 3473882)
In reality the way an issue plays out over time is that the liberal point of view serves as one curb in the road, and the conservative point of view serves as the other curb in the road. The ship of state (car? Porsche?) goes approximately down the middle of the road bouncing off the curbs, sometimes more to one side than the other but keeps traveling the road, albeit with some suspension damage!:D

Dan - If that's original, mucho kudos! If not, same qty. kudos to the author.

72doug2,2S 09-12-2007 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1fastredsc (Post 3473684)
Was watching CNN a minute ago, and a story from the caferty file came up. Apparantly there was study done showing that conservatives are more rigid in there brain activity, where liberals were more "bendable". He further explains that what they are trying to say is conservatives are less likely to think in a way other than how they normally think, where liberals are more likely to weigh pros and cons and bend there thinking based on it. And then of course he asks at the end for people to write in with there opinion on the matter.
So what's your opinion?

Or you might rephrase that to read, "where liberals are more likely to weigh the latest polls and bend their thinking based on it."

Or-the answer is blowing in the wind

I like permanent waves

DARISC 09-12-2007 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RKC (Post 3474889)

con·serv·a·tive [kuhn-sur-vuh-tiv] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1. disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.
3. traditional in style or manner; avoiding novelty or showiness: conservative suit.
4. (often initial capital letter) of or pertaining to the Conservative party.
6. having the power or tendency to conserve; preservative.

Uhhh.....that would be the brake pedal....right?

lib·er·al [lib-er-uhl, lib-ruhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
2. (often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
6. of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.
7. free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant: a liberal attitude toward foreigners.
8. open-minded or tolerant, esp. free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.

Uhhh.....that would be the gas pedal....right?

Reasonable idea to keep both pedals operative?

Mule 09-12-2007 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RKC (Post 3474889)
That's ridiculous:

I mean, look at the dictionary definitions of those two words. They prove the study is full of........Oh, never mind.

con·serv·a·tive [kuhn-sur-vuh-tiv] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1. disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.
3. traditional in style or manner; avoiding novelty or showiness: conservative suit.
4. (often initial capital letter) of or pertaining to the Conservative party.
6. having the power or tendency to conserve; preservative.

lib·er·al [lib-er-uhl, lib-ruhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
2. (often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
6. of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.
7. free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant: a liberal attitude toward foreigners.
8. open-minded or tolerant, esp. free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.

Seems like you better straighten up 'em libs.
8. open-minded or tolerant, esp. free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.
Like smoking, eating what you want, driving what you want, etc?

7. free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant: a liberal attitude toward foreigners.
as long as you don't disagree with 'em. Like RFK jr. said, if you disagree about global warming, you should be trated like a traitor. Imprisoned or shot?

6. of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.
Like raising taxes to intolerable levels?

Your definition is pure BS.

Try this one. Socialist thinking individuals who believe that due to their higher minded thought, should have the right to control everyone else's money & activities.

DARISC 09-12-2007 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mule (Post 3475117)
Seems like you better straighten up 'em libs.
8. open-minded or tolerant, esp. free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.
Like smoking, eating what you want, driving what you want, etc?

7. free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant: a liberal attitude toward foreigners.
as long as you don't disagree with 'em. Like RFK jr. said, if you disagree about global warming, you should be trated like a traitor. Imprisoned or shot?

6. of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.
Like raising taxes to intolerable levels?

Your definition is pure BS.

Try this one. Socialist thinking individuals who believe that due to their higher minded thought, should have the right to control everyone else's money & activities.

And here comes Mule, careening off the right wall, hard on the brakes! :)

Mule 09-12-2007 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DARISC (Post 3475131)
And here comes Mule, careening off the right wall, hard on the brakes! :)

Can't take much issue with my points though, can you?

rammstein 09-12-2007 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dantilla (Post 3473962)
Studies also show that humans only use 10% of their brain capacity.

But I don't believe it, because the people doing the study were only using 10% of their brains.

Its a commonly misrepresented statistic. The 10% refers to usage at any given time. Kinda like your engine doesn't ever fire all of its cylinders at the same time. I don't have data past that, but that much I know. Unless I only listened to 10% of it. :D

72doug2,2S 09-12-2007 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mule (Post 3475117)
Try this one. Socialist thinking individuals who believe that due to their higher minded thought, should have the right to control everyone else's money & activities.

+1

Many think there is a fixed amount of wealth in the world, and if you have more than someone else you are clearly guilty of taking it away from others. This is just not so. Wealth can truly be created where none exists, and so you hurt no one. These people have a crazy type of half empty glass.

DARISC 09-12-2007 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mule (Post 3475175)
Can't take much issue with my points though, can you?

Ha Ha! Mule, that's very wise of you to post that as a question rather than an assumption.

I'd take issue if what that means is to rationally discuss/argue specific points, rather than rant back and forth - sure! Absolutely! That can be very productive.

Cheers,

David

Mule 09-12-2007 10:16 AM

And you still can't, apparently.

holtjv 09-12-2007 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dantilla (Post 3474236)
Some people are so open-minded their brain leaked out.

Dang. 2 in a row. Keep 'em coming.

DARISC 09-12-2007 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mule (Post 3475215)
And you still can't, apparently.

??

holtjv 09-12-2007 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmeteer (Post 3473868)
Here's a well-worn quote from Winston Churchhill, who once wrote: "Any man who is under 30 and is not a liberal has no heart, and any man who is over 30 and not a conservative has no brains." Many others over the years have quotes of a similar nature, like Benjamin Disraeli, Woodrow Wilson or George Bernard Shaw. Maybe the liberal brain is more closely tied the impulse of charity and humanity(ie, heart), while the conservative sees things in a more ordered, logical way and needs strong convincing (like hard evidence) to change their thinking. Being conservative may also be a result of getting older and wiser, and seeing enough examples of liberal ideas and policies gone bad.

"I am reminded of four definitions: a radical is a man
with both feet planted firmly in the air.
A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs
who, however, has never learned to walk forward.
A reactionary is a somnambulist walking backwards.
A Liberal is a man who uses his legs and his hands
at the behest the command--of his head." -FDR


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