New hunting rifle.....and a scope question. - Page 2

mattdavis11 · 09-14-2007, 07:16 AM

Eventually, some of them, yes. We do our part down here in Texas, time for some of the other states to get with the program.

TerryBPP · 09-14-2007, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by on-ramp

too many homo sapiens roaming around free too.. should we kill them too?

a deer MIGHT cross the road and cause an accident, therefore I need to go into the
woods and kill it .

I am for it! Thin the heard!

slakjaw · 09-14-2007, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by on-ramp

too many homo sapiens roaming around free too.. should we kill them too?

a deer MIGHT cross the road and cause an accident, therefore I need to go into the
woods and kill it .

On my last trip from Omaha to mpls. I counted 22 dead deer on the side of the road. Personally, I would rather shoot one than have a family member hit it possibly causing harm to one of them. OR you hitting one in your P-Car. I am going back to Neb. for black powder season this year.

If you are going to eat what you shoot, whats your "beef" with that? is it just the killing of a fury little animal looking for a drink of water or what? How do you feel about these animals starving to death when they are not hunted?

Were it not for man farming, giving deer and the like an abundant food source and removing predators, their numbers would be much lower. as it is now the population is out of control most states are giving 2 or more deer per ticket these days.

on-ramp · 09-14-2007, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by slakjaw

On my last trip from Omaha to mpls. I counted 22 dead deer on the side of the road. Personally, I would rather shoot one than have a family member hit it possibly causing harm to one of them. OR you hitting one in your P-Car. I am going back to Neb. for black powder season this year.

If you are going to eat what you shoot, whats your "beef" with that? is it just the killing of a fury little animal looking for a drink of water or what? How do you feel about these animals starving to death when they are not hunted?

Were it not for man farming, giving deer and the like an abundant food source and removing predators, their numbers would be much lower. as it is now the population is out of control most states are giving 2 or more deer per ticket these days.

so you are killing them because you are doing them a favor instead of giving them a chance. i see.

Hunters , like sociopaths and mass murderers, often times in their fantasy minds, conjure up justifications to support their actions.

in this case, reasons are: it's ok because we need to feed our family, it's ok because they might cause an accident, it's ok because they will eventually be eaten by predators, it's ok because they don't make good pets like dogs or cats.

HardDrive · 09-14-2007, 07:45 AM

You really are desperate to protect your pathetic little angry world view, aren't you on-ramp?

on-ramp · 09-14-2007, 07:59 AM

Right. I'm so angry, I'm taking my rifle and going into the woods to kill something!

Jeff Higgins · 09-14-2007, 08:07 AM

I've never felt an overwhelming need to justify my actions to anyone. I eat, therefor I must kill. Either in person or by proxy. I prefer to do it in person and not foist that ugly chore off upon some one else. It takes far more of a man, far more awareness of our place in this world, to look into those big brown eyes and pull a trigger, release an arrow, or employ whatever means you have chosen to end another's life so that yours may continue.

It is the truly pathological that deny our place and hide from this ugly reality by making some one else do it for them. They disgrace and dishonor the very animals that feed them. They are cowards of the lowest order, wringing their hands and quivering behind some delusional world-view conjured in their own addled minds. And please don't think for a moment that because you are a vegan that living things do not die to feed you. It's simply the way of this world. It is innescapable. Denying that and denigrating others for taking a more active role in this life process than you have chosen is hopelessly missguided, delusional, and incredibly stupid.

slakjaw · 09-14-2007, 08:11 AM

Nothing I said was a justification. But I also must point out that U forgot to say "its OK because they taste really good and were not raised with drugs and steroids in their feed trough"

The reason there are so many deer is because of man.

scottmandue · 09-14-2007, 08:28 AM

Rampy, baby give it a rest!

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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

I've never felt an overwhelming need to justify my actions to anyone. I eat, therefor I must kill. Either in person or by proxy. I prefer to do it in person and not foist that ugly chore off upon some one else. It takes far more of a man, far more awareness of our place in this world, to look into thise big brown eyes and pull a trigger, release an arrow, or employ whatever means you have chosen to end another's life so that yours may continue.

Well put,

Look ramp, no one is a bigger animal lover/tree hugger than me, I respect your vegan life'style but I also respect the hunters life'style... as in Jeff's above quote it takes a big man to take responsibility and get up close and personally with bringing home the protein. I personally can't Imagine dropping the hammer on Bambi however a multitude of cows, pigs, chickens, turkeys (mmmmm turkey) an ocean full of fish and even a alligator have given their life's for my meals so I am just as responsible for killing them as the people who did the deed.

Just like I can't imagine being a policeman but I am sure glad there are people out there that want to do that job.

Joeaksa · 09-14-2007, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by on-ramp

Right. I'm so angry, I'm taking my rifle and going into the woods to kill something!

Make sure you wear the orange vest instead of the cammo one.

Someone from Craigs List might mistake you for a deer and "accidently" fill their freezer with you...

Burnin' oil · 09-14-2007, 08:35 AM

As a strict vegan, I have to agree with On-Ramp.

scottmandue · 09-14-2007, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by on-ramp

too many homo sapiens roaming around free too.. should we kill them too?

Death penalty for parking violations... problem solved!

Burnin' oil · 09-14-2007, 08:37 AM

Although I do occasionally enjoy a good T-Bone and usually have chicken a couple times a week. I do like duck hunting and it's tough to beat fresh dove breasts. And I only shoot ground squirrels because they are so destructive. Same with gophers.

Jim Bremner · 09-14-2007, 08:51 AM

I don't hunt, But I don't hold it against anyone who hunts for meat.

I understand Vegans, but don't try to push your beliefs on me.

I had a vegan chew me out for my leather breifcase..azzwipe!

Joeaksa · 09-14-2007, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Burnin' oil

As a strict vegan, I have to agree with On-Ramp.

Although I do occasionally enjoy a good T-Bone and usually have chicken a couple times a week.

Ahhh, how can you be a strict vegan and still eat meat, especially red meat? Always thought that vegans did not eat red meat.

Burnin' oil · 09-14-2007, 09:49 AM

Don't you judge me!

Joeaksa · 09-14-2007, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Burnin' oil

Don't you judge me!

Jeez we are antsy today!

Was not judging anyone but curious how someone could be a vegan and eat meat at the same time? If I knew anything about it would not have asked the questions!

Sorry and pls get up on the other side of the bed tomorrow!

71T Targa · 09-14-2007, 10:00 AM

I thought we were using BLUE for sarcasm now... Burnin', there must be some blue in there somewhere...

HardDrive · 09-14-2007, 10:53 AM

Very well put Jeff.

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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

It is the truly pathological that deny our place and hide from this ugly reality by making some one else do it for them. They disgrace and dishonor the very animals that feed them. They are cowards of the lowest order, wringing their hands and quivering behind some delusional world-view conjured in their own addled minds. And please don't think for a moment that because you are a vegan that living things do not die to feed you. It's simply the way of this world. It is innescapable. Denying that and denigrating others for taking a more active role in this life process than you have chosen is hopelessly missguided, delusional, and incredibly stupid.

mattdavis11 · 09-14-2007, 11:09 AM

Right on Jeff.

All this talk about deer is making me hungry. To bad it's not hunting season yet. I have a craving for some back strap, and it sucks that I can't get venison at the grocery store. Guess I'll have to whack a few more this year than last to tie me over for the year.