Well, those who represent Dr. Nobel's beliefs are either extremely sage in their thinking/consideration, or simply making a political statement. If it helps at all, "peace" can sometimes be thought of as "awareness."

welcome back Senior Duck

I for one think Gore has a massive ego and self importance view of himself. This is now all the worse by today's announcement. When he conceded the race in 2000 his speech so self focused and pius that it was painful.

He just can't hide his ego as well as Bill could.

That's why I wrote: 'Gore Clinton" . .. maybe should have said Gore Rodham .... anyway, Hilary Rodham-Clinton is a divisive, mean, power-hungry hag who is trying her best to undo her well-earned image. Gore, OTOH, has completed the image restoration process. Not only does he look good to those hardly paying attention in this country, but he also presents better to the world audience as well.

And, just for fun, contrast Gore with Obama ... Obama is now looking like a little boy in is own club-house smoking cig's with his buddies, talk'n up grand idealistic "what ifs."

Gore has now what Hilary can't buy (or even blackmail for, apparently)

Hell yeah he has an ego! He's a politician after all. I bet he's thinking about all sorts of way to vindicate himself right now.

Look for a Gore/Bono ticket in 2012 or 16.

(and no, not Sonny Bono :rolleyes:)

Exactly! But don't forget the essential hard bitten lowest common denominator between Hillary and Al: the two beyotches hate each other.

Message considered.

The man is a liar.

11,000+ scientists are on record as disagreeing with the 2500 that contributed to the IPCC conclusions.

Fire at will.

Ha ha! Reminds me of when a reporter asked Bono if he'd ever run for U.S. president if he were eligible. Bono said his wife would never let him move into such a smaller house.

And what politician isn't? Have we not been lied to by Washington on a regular basis?

I am glad it is the Norwegians that choose the Peace Prize. The rest of the choices like medicine, physics, chemistry and literature were all adequate IMO.

Giving out the Peace Prize to 'scientific' work is new per se, but not strange. Giving it to Mr. Gore though gives it a somewhat populist/politically painted touch that I am personally not completely comfortable with.

Not denying the positive effects of Al´s work however.

For some reason he makes me think of Chevy Chase..and Paul Simon. In it self, not a bad thing. Good song anyway. :D

I think that the Norwegians have a wry sense of humor.

Fire at what? A target that's inconsequential?

Have you any knowledge of the politics played in the science and academics community?

As to 11,000+ scientists being on record - "on record" has about as much meaning as "a little bit pregnant" and "I no longer beat my kids."

The film's message is less about the science and more about the awareness of the pending event.

Maybe this will help you. It's really not that difficult.

From the Associated Press report on the prize:

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In his 1895 will creating the prize, the Swedish industrialist Alfred Nobel said it should be awarded for efforts toward peacemaking and disarmament, and the award now often also recognizes human rights, democracy, elimination of poverty, sharing resources and the environment. Last year, for example, it went to the Bangladeshi economist Muhammad Yunus and his Grameen Bank for pioneering the use of microcredit to spur creation of small businesses in poor nations.

Jan Egeland, a Norwegian peace mediator and former senior U.N. official for humanitarian affairs, called climate change more than an environmental issue.

"It is a question of war and peace," said Egeland, now director of the Norwegian Institute of International Affairs in Oslo. "We're already seeing the first climate wars, in the Sahel belt of Africa." He said nomads and herders are in conflict with farmers because the changing climate has brought drought and a shortage of fertile lands.

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Well, for the man who brought you the PMRC and the Internet:

Emmy

Grammy

Nobel

(Just shows that an idiot CAN hit a trifecta every now & then):D

QUOTE: "He said nomads and herders are in conflict with farmers because the changing climate has brought drought and a shortage of fertile lands."
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Hummm, had they been alive ...wonder who they would have blamed several thousand years ago.

"Who the foook is melting all my ICE!

Here's a nice response to the award from DR JEREMY LEGGETT, OXFORD UNIVERSITY ENVIRONMENTAL CHANGE INSTITUTE

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The Nobel committee spoke of the conflict threat posed by climate change

I can't think of a better combination for this award - the previously unsung and much-falsely maligned legion of scientific whistleblowers, and their tireless chief advocate.

Perhaps now the shrivelling band of fossil-fuel-funded contrarians and car-enthusiast media stars will finally have the good grace to shut up with the ignorance they pedal about the threat we face.

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First, I don't think man as we know man had yet evolved several thousand years ago. Maybe there was some sort of hominid, but it wasn't "man," man.

I'm not sure, but I believe the last great climate change was the Ice Age. Didn't that kill off the dinosaurs? Neither man nor his predecessors coexist with the dinosaurs.

Regardless, nomads and herders are the least of the worry. When whole continents are threatened by global warming is when everyone should worry.

Yep - that's what I've been talking about. Conflict threat, or threat of conflict because of climate change. Few seem to understand this.

if you guys don't think that climate change will affect the balance of power, global economy, or political landscape, then you should by all means go back to your big screen tvs and watch some more professional sports.

You can poke all the fun you want at Al. Sure he's got an ego and is a politician. And yes, there are valid scientific questions about aspects of "global warming." But while climate change might not be something we can directly affect, we better well sort out the 2nd and 3rd order effects from those changes. Because they could be huge. Not necessarily before you or I die, but likely before your kids do.

does anyone remember when it was the coming ice age? cover of Time about 25 years ago... we only have about 100 years of real data on weather, yet we think the world is going to come to an end for in 30 years time? (that is what the extreme global warming people think).

what is the difference between people who have faith in the existence of a God and those that have faith that man can understand, solve and be the cause of all the earths problems? In my view, global warming is a religon in its own right. think it through, there are a lot of similar elements.