Livi, I completely understand and even can agree with your statement. Good summary.

What bothers me about women is that even if I am prepared to be a mate for life, fix what needs fixing etc etc, why the heck can't they understand that the way to keep it so is to make sure that they provide the service required to keep things at attention?

I mean, if I were a woman (with a male brain admittedly) I would take the view that the guarantee to make sure that my mate (lemme see...would this make me gay?) did not ever want to pursue another female would be to take every bit of starch out of his sail by working the thing half to death if needs be. Every time you see something pop up, you take it down. Eventually the simple male mate would just find an equilibrium and he'd be off to the garage playing with his toys the rest of the time....

...but I am being simplistic and male....but I repeat myself....

Dennis

Well... at least until the female contingent at PPOT finds this thread! :D

Also can someone translate Marcus's post for me?:p

I wish I were gay.

I was in a verbally and emotionally abusive relationship for a quarter-century. That ended four years ago. I am still healing. Healing nicely. I live alone, and it's WONDERFUL. Of course, I still like women very much, but I'm not brave enough to make sacrifices for that. In other words, females are welcome to hang with me and do stuff. Games like "Hide the Cucumber" and other similar pursuits. Hiking and camping and just doing stuff. But.......I'm just not in a position to WANT that so badly that I open myself up for another emotional clobbering. Previous to this, a long time ago, I was terribly smitten by women daily. I put them on a pedestal. So.....here's the enigma: When I desperately wanted an emotional and physical and domestic relationship, I got no respect. No good bites. But now that I'm emotionally unavailable for the most part, I've got groupies. Little Willie has to deliberately schedule time for rest. Go figure.

Sounds like the making of another pirate thread. Aaarrrrhh! :D

boy is that true.

Im at a point now where Im not ashamed to admit I dislike about 85% of all women. Back when I wanted emotional closeness, relationship, etc.. I was instantly placed into the friendzone. Nowadays, I seem to attract a lot of women, simply for hating them. I have actually told one girl "How could you possibly be attracted to me? I find you vapid, boring and unintelligent." She blew me all night long.

Using the word vapid on a person lacking intelligence probably didn't register correctly.

it's interesting. I used to be a nice guy. Now I dont care. =)

I don't understand women. I don't think I want to.

i gave up, and got a cat, it has furr, is demanding, tries to boss me around
every once in a while, if it rains, i got wet pussy walking through my house

same result, but much, much cheaper

if i get fed up with the nagging, i hose it down... more wet pussy
it doesn't call me at work
it doesn't call me when i stay out late
doesn't ask me if i think it's butt is to big, if i'm cheating on it, no in-laws, valentines day, anniversary day, none of that ****

i got it a gravity bulk feeder, i fill it once a month with dry food, done
it does leave dead animals on my porch, but i think it's ok that it has a hobby, so i positively reinforce that...

all in all , i lost more of the drawbacks compared to the few positives i miss out...

Jack Nicholson sums it up succinctly and best;)

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I learned that lesson long before I could have a bad marriage. I was the same, had a girlfriend in high school that I put on a pedestal and she treated me like $h!t. She cheats on me freshmen year of college. I say: "f*** it" and basically started being myself: a brutally honest @$$hole. I haven't had problems since. I think women basically decide early on whether the respect a guy or are going to use him. I made sure they respected me. Now I'm married and I have no regrets.

I'm lucky if I get 18 hrs. total, ......annually!

Priceless!

Don't forget you can have as many of them at one time as you like.

you call it paradise, i call that the desert... :D

I'm old...........She's old.

Once I let my dick stop ruling my life, it got much better. They lose a big part of their control if you act like you don't care about it.

I have been where you are, the part about it that sux is that you only get there through getting your heart ripped out. The good news is that it can't happen again, that is the bad news too...

I always say, you can do 9 things 'right' for a woman, do the 10th 'wrong' and it is like the other 9 never happened... that fact along is why I have a lot of faith in the Bible, the story about the tree and the snake is just too darn spot on not to be true :rolleyes:

4 minutes would be fine with me...

Depends on what state you are in.. :D

Baaaa'd joke...

Man for a bunch of smart guys - you REALLY don't know what women want... So let me give you a short definately not "all inclusive" list:

1. SEX. That's right, we LOVE sex and best of all, we love it with you! Sex
like a good meal needs a bit of preparation time, but definately worth it....

2. Humor. If you can sing or make a woman laugh, no matter how hopelessly
ugly, uneducated or dirt poor you are, trust me, you will have female
company. I mean hey, look at Ric Ocasek, Mick Jagger and Rodney
Dangerfield.

3. Lastly for my short list, here's the really really important one. You
need to get this one exactly right. We want our OWN Porsche!
And I for one, want a really really fast convertible!

Now a REAL man, like my handsome husband, just happens to be able to check off everything on that list!! Which makes him a "keeper"!!! :D

angela