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				Need some ski car options...
			 
			We need a vehicle for the upcoming ski season.  It needs to be 4wd or 4 motion to make it up our very steep driveway that ends up with glare ice on it. So.... let's say we have $10K to $12K to spend We want pretty good fuel mileage. Thinking about a Passat 4 motion wagon, or some Subaru. Any ideas?? thanks, Eric 
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|  11-11-2007, 10:20 PM | 
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			Toyota Rav4 or Honda CRV.  Both can be had with 4wheel drive.  Both are very light, and easy on the gas!
		 
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			Jeep Cherokee with the 4.0 straight six.
		 
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these can be had for a song and that straight six will be going when you are worm food
		 
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			The Cherokee or Subaru are both fine choices IMO.  The extra ground-clearance of the Cherokee might tip the scales if you are going to be out during serious blizzards when you get 10+ inches on the road.  Otherwise, the extra comfort of the Subie would be nice.  A WRX would double as a fun car toom although I dunno if good examples can be had for $10k
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 Clearance IS an issue....no question. I found a "lift" kit for the Passat, but it only raises it less than an inch. thanks, Eric 
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			96 4Runner cost me $9,000 2 years ago.  They are very reliable and have plenty of space.
		 
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			I vote 02+ Subaru Impreza Outback Sport. great ski car.  Of course, you could also find a really nice older turbo 5 Audi S4/S6 Avant and chip it for a 300 hp winter beast. Well within your budget if you don't mind tinkering once in a while... 
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			How about a Land Rover Discovery? Loads of room, very capable off-road, and can be had for about $8k leaving a couple of grand for fixes. I know Land Rover has a terrible reputation for reliability, but my '96 discovery SD ran great (only let me down once and that was a speed sensor) and was the perfect ski rig. I locked the center diff. and pulled rigs back up onto the road with it several times- pretty impressive.  Cheers, Paul. Edit: I got 20 mpg in mine... 
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			Cherokee with the 6. My mom has one. Damn near invincible. has close to 300K on it with no major problems.
		 
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			Ok.... so far some good options, some I hadn't thought of as well. I probably need to fine tune this a little.... so what's the best one to "drive"? I realize that the Audi is probably at the top, but I don't know if I could deal with the potential "issues". We will probably be doing 150 miles on a close to home weekend, to 400 miles on a long weekend. thanks, Eric 
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			When working, the Audi is unbeatable.  Simply the best for what you want. But you are talking about $10k, and that means an Audi would be off warranty. Be afraid. | ||
|  11-12-2007, 09:31 AM | 
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			Had not thought of the 4 runner.  That Toyota V-6 is pretty bulletproof too.
		 
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|  11-12-2007, 09:38 AM | 
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			Great ski car, but out of warranty     
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|  11-12-2007, 09:53 AM | 
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			You actually work on yours yourself, right?  How hard is it really?
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|  11-12-2007, 09:54 AM | 
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 Pretty much any service on the engine (alternator, water pump, AC compressor, power steering pump etc) requires pulling the whole grill/bumper/radiator assembly off of the car. I am capable of working on the car as I bought a Vagcom setup and can do diagnostics with my laptop, but the combination of AWD, twin turbochargers, autotrans etc coupled with things being so buried under the hood makes service a b!tch. It is however a d@mn nice car to take on trips in any weather and is the most stable vehicle I have ever driven on snowy roads at relatively high speeds. The trunk is HUGE. 
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 Happy shopping, as it's a buyers market for used cars right about now!! 
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			AWD wont do squat on glare ice.  will need chains, studs, sand or salt  for that.   otherwise +1 for the scubby, multiple snow trips, only time i got stuck was sliding into a snow covered parking place at Stevens pass. they had a truck patrolling the lot for pulling idiots like me out of the 12" of snow that had fallen that morning. 
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